Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was friend.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as NDP MP for Kamloops (B.C.)

Lost his last election, in 2000, with 28% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Taxation February 17th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, this may put a new twist on the term bodyguard or tour around the world guide or whatever.

Again in the pursuit of tax fairness, the Minister of Finance will know full well that a number of years ago as a result of the Carter commission, a study into Canada's taxation system, he indicated that a buck should be considered a buck, a buck, a buck, referring to the fact that a buck as capital gains is not equal to a dollar earned by labour.

Would the Minister of Finance recognize that this policy is worth considering at this point, particularly when we acknowledge that $1 billion is lost each year to the national treasury as a result of this tax provision?

Taxation February 17th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Finance who in his pursuit for tax fairness may or may not be aware that the business entertainment tax deduction includes escort services as long as the escort services are called being a bodyguard or a tour guide.

Again in an effort to bring sanity to our tax system, would the minister indicate to the House and to the Canadian public generally whether he feels it is an appropriate entertainment tax deduction?

Income Tax Act February 17th, 1995

I hear my friend in the Reform Party saying that is good. They say that it is good, that people should inherit vast amounts of money and pay no tax.

They support the notion that on income received from capital gains tax is paid on only 75 per cent. They say that is good. They say that certain people, particularly the wealthy people of the country, should get as much as possible. They say that is good because they work hard for it. That implies that other people do not work hard for their money.

Why is it that Reformers feel average working people produce the most if their are wages are low and they are hungry? Why do they feel if we pay them very poorly they will be out there working hard? Why do they feel the way to get working people to work is to pay them as little as possible? However, they feel that the way to get wealthy people working is to pay them the most possible.

Is there not some inconsistency in the logic of rewarding the wealthy so they will work but keep the wages of the poor and average working person as low as possible to encourage them to work? To me there is a bit of inconsistency in the argument of my friends in the Reform Party.

Today we are talking about Bill C-59. The speaker for the government went on at some length about how it was an effort to make the tax system fairer. It might be a slight baby step in that direction.

Let us take the whole issue of escort services. No one here knows anything about escort services, but if we look in the telephone book there are a number of pages listing escort services. It is interesting that our tax system says that escort services are tax deductible. I guess with some people it is a cost of doing business. I am not sure what escorts cost, but whatever the bill is it can be submitted as part of a tax return. It is called a cost of conducting business.

When the question was recently put to national revenue officials, they said they have to change it, it is getting a little questionable in terms of a legitimate tax deduction. However if the escort service is called a bodyguard or a tour guide it is acceptable. We have some interesting concepts here in terms of what a bodyguard or a tour guide might imply.

Nevertheless the reality is that simply by using a little creative commenting on an income tax return, escort services and entertainment of that type will be tax deductions. Is this reasonable? Is this acceptable to the people of Canada? My suspicion is that it is not.

My hon. friend talked about the business tax deduction moving from 80 per cent to 50 per cent. Should we not distinguish between various kinds of business costs? I do not think anybody here would argue that business people getting together over a dinner, lunch or breakfast to discuss a transaction or a business arrangement is a legitimate cost of doing business.

However, as I said earlier, is an escort service deduction a legitimate cost? Is the annual fee for a box in a sports stadium a legitimate cost of doing business? Is purchasing a yacht to entertain clients a legitimate cost of doing business? Is choosing the Bali Hilton or the Waikiki Hilton as the place for an annual meeting a legitimate cost of conducting a business?

I know a number of people who own large boats, sailboats, launches and racing boats. They are business tax deductions and are used for entertaining clients.

Is a hunting lodge or a fishing camp a legitimate business deduction? I suppose we could say in some cases it is, but enough is enough. My hon. friend stands and tries to say that part of the changes to the Income Tax Act will be to bring fairness back into the system by removing the deduction-

Income Tax Act February 17th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I listened to my hon. friend, the member who spoke on behalf of the Reform Party on Bill C-59. I must say I always appreciate his comments. I agree with hardly any of them but I nevertheless appreciate them. He always presents them in a thoughtful and articulate way.

One point perplexed me about his comments. Canada is one of the very few countries of the OECD that does not have an inheritance tax; people inheriting $10 million or $20 million are not required to pay any tax.

Financial Administration Act February 16th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, it is obvious to anyone who is watching the various news programs today, or who has any sort of sensitivity to what is going on in the country, that there is the equivalent of a tax revolt well under way.

People have literally been driven to the wall when it comes to the existing tax system which, to give it undue consideration, would be to call it unfair, unjust, unbalanced and discriminatory. It discriminates against the small business sector relative to the corporate sector. It is biased against the average working person, as opposed to people in the upper income or the very wealthy tax brackets.

This tax revolt has occurred by the economy moving underground. There probably is not a Canadian citizen who is not participating in some way in the underground economy, with the exception of yourself, Mr. Speaker, and some of my colleagues who are presently in the House.

Who does not participate with cash transactions or in a barter system? It is increasing. It is estimated that somewhere between $40 billion and $120 billion of business transactions each year take place in the underground economy. This makes it almost impossible to pay down the debt of the country until we get some confidence back in the system.

Why is that? First of all, if we add up all of the tax exemptions, they come to about $36 billion a year. That was in the press yesterday. Thirty-six billion dollars a year is lost to the treasury because of tax exemptions. Many of these exemptions are legitimate but many must be classed as tax loopholes. I give my friend, the Minister of Finance, full credit for going public in the last few days and saying that the system is filled with tax loopholes that have to be closed. He also said that the poor do not use tax loopholes. It is clear what he means. The rich use tax loopholes.

When we go down to the harbours in some of the port cities of Canada and see the huge yachts, they are by and large tax deductions. I personally know a number of people with boats who write off half of the cost of the boat and call it a business tax deduction for entertainment purposes. The boxes in the big sports stadiums are tax write-offs. We found out from the news today that even escort services can be a tax write-off if the name is changed to a tour guide or a bodyguard.

I suspect a lot of submissions will be made by individuals who are entertaining their clients. A lot of touring will also be going on, or perhaps a lot of bodyguards will be put into place. That will be a legitimate tax write-off.

The reports say that Revenue Canada will soon send out a circular clarifying this issue. As long as the escort service is also a tour guide or a bodyguard, it will qualify for a legitimate tax write-off. I could go on, but I suspect that we are all familiar with the various forms of tax write-offs.

I would like to ask a couple of serious questions. Canada is one of the very few OECD countries that does not have an inheritance tax. Across the way, when my hon. friend inherits $2 million or $3 million, it is not taxed. We are virtually the only country in the western world where an inheritance is not taxed.

Even the United States has an inheritance tax. The United States also considers capital gains to be like any other income. In other words $1 of capital gains is taxed like $1 of regular income. But not in Canada. That $1 of capital gains is only considered to be worth 75 cents for taxation purposes.

Once again we are one of the very few OECD countries that says to people: If your income is from capital gains we are automatically going to give you a 25 per cent tax break before we even start considering it.

Again I have to ask, why the tax break for those who earn their income from capital gains as opposed to someone working in a radio station, a factory or a plant? Why do we distinguish between those two kinds of incomes? Why do we let those people who inherit vast amounts of money off, not to pay any income tax at all on it? Again, we are one of the very few countries in the world that does that.

I could also ask about the family trust provision. Here is the mother of all loopholes. I believe there is now universal agreement that if there is a tax provision that has to go in this budget, it has to be this family trust business. The tax experts told us this provision was brought in to protect only the very wealthiest families of Canada. Must we have a special tax provision that costs us many hundreds of millions of dollars to make life easier for the very wealthy in Canada? I think the reaction to that is no.

We will be watching very closely to see what the Minister of Finance does when he brings in his budget in a few days and whether or not he says: "We are going to take this loophole of loopholes, the mother or father of all loopholes out of the system". If he does that, then I think we can legitimately say that yes, there is some balance to the budget.

For example, he should tax the inheritances people receive, let us say, over $1 million or $2 million. I am not talking about people who inherit the family farm or the person who inherits a small business or the family home or whatever. I am talking about people who inherit $2 million, $3 million, $5 million or $10 million. Why should they not pay tax on that? They would if they were in virtually every other western industrialized nation, but not in Canada.

A whole set of questions must be asked about the loopholes in the system. I am very happy to see that the Minister of Finance has now acknowledged this. We will be watching carefully as he attempts to close off some of these loopholes in an effort to make the tax system a bit fairer.

Privilege February 16th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the words of my hon. friend but recognizing that, it might be some time before the Board of Internal Economy would have an opportunity to address this. The matter is rather urgent. The legislation is before the House now.

Our constituents want to find out immediately what this bill involves. Perhaps, Mr. Speaker, you can assure members that this is not some item that might be put off indefinitely or for a few days even.

Taxation February 16th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, that is why I suggested a ceiling of $1 million would be a useful guideline. It would get around the matter of one's principal residence.

The minister has said that not many poor people use tax loopholes. I suggest that not many poor families use family trusts. Can the minister explain to the House of Commons and the people of Canada why a country like Canada would continue to have in its tax system a provision that caters virtually exclusively to the wealthiest families in Canada?

Taxation February 16th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Finance.

The minister is well aware that virtually all of the OECD countries now have an inheritance tax for people who inherit, say, sums of money over $1 million. This would generate hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue at a time when revenue is much in need.

Can the minister tell us, is there some reason Canada does not have an inheritance tax like virtually every other OECD country?

Petitions February 16th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I have the honour to present a petition on behalf of the citizens of the great communities of Logan Lake, Kamloops, Ashcroft, Cache Creek, Merritt and Savona. There are hundreds of names on this petition.

The people point out that Canada's mining industry is a mainstay of employment in over 150 communities across Canada, an important contributor to Canada's gross domestic product in total exports and a cornerstone of our economic future. They point out that the industry has proposed a 10 point plan of action which would enhance the mining industry of Canada.

They are calling upon Parliament to take any action that will increase employment in this sector, promote exploration, rebuild Canada's mineral reserves, sustain mining communities and essentially keep mining in Canada.

Petitions February 15th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I have another petition in which the residents point out to the House of Commons that a company in western Canada called Multinational Resources has indicated its plan to divert water from the North Thompson River near Valemount, British Columbia, in an effort to resell that water in San Diego, California. This is one of the many proposals from the North America Water and Power Alliance; that is, to divert Canadian rivers into the United States and northern Mexico.

The residents call on the government to introduce legislation that would categorically prohibit any permits allowing freshwater rivers to be dammed or diverted into the United States-