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  • His favourite word was yukon.

Last in Parliament September 2021, as Liberal MP for Yukon (Yukon)

Won his last election, in 2019, with 34% of the vote.

Statements in the House

An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act June 3rd, 2002

Once I have finished my speech I will give members a departmental speech if I have time so they can enjoy them both.

The last item suggested by the opposition is not true. Opposition members are suggesting that taking the offences out of the property section would remove the defences people could use if charged. However all the defences would be available under section 8.3 of the criminal code. That would not change. People would have all the same defences they had before through case law. They could still embark on the types of activities they were allowed to before.

The opposition's arguments have been refuted. As long as the debate has been going on I have not heard any others.

An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act June 3rd, 2002

The opposition is very animated this afternoon.

An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act June 3rd, 2002

I am glad the hon. member has raised the issue because it is the next part of my speech. Not only the hunters but the trappers, fishermen and even the farmers in my riding are very happy that the rural caucus has done a lot of work to make sure the bill would not harm any practices that have been allowed in the past. I compliment the hon. member for Huron—Bruce for making these points and bringing them forward to ensure Bill C-15B is totally acceptable and would not harm the ways of life that are so important to the trappers, fishers, hunters and even the farmers of the Yukon.

Although the debate has gone on so long it is disappointing because no new points have been brought up. However I will again refute the two or three points brought up in criticism of the bill. First, some argue that under Bill C-15B a whole bunch of frivolous lawsuits might be undertaken against innocent people who could not afford the time or effort. This is not true. Cases would need to go to a hearing. Cases brought forward by private individuals trying to do something vexatious or frivolous would be screened out at that stage. Almost every offence would be a hybrid offence which means it would fall under this category. The only exception would be if someone broke the law by owning an animal when he or she was not supposed to.

Second, an unfounded complaint is that the bill would expand the definition of animals too far. I am sure some members of the opposition support preventing cruelty to animals, but some are arguing Bill C-15B would catch all sorts of animals that were not included before. However there was no definition before so anything was eligible. Bill C-15B would limit the number of animals the law would apply to.

An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act June 3rd, 2002

Mr. Speaker, I will talk about a couple of the points members of the opposition party, the Alliance, made recently.

First, they suggested we propose an amendment in the House instead of in the Senate that would help rural Canada. The member should understand legislative procedure better. We cannot propose an amendment here because an amendment and a sub-amendment have already been proposed. It is not possible procedurally. He should be aware of that. He should also be aware that when an amendment goes before the Senate it must come back here to be approved anyway. Amendments must be debated and approved by parliament before they are agreed to.

Second, the same member tried to create a myth that we would not be able to do research on animals after the bill was passed. The case law with respect to the issue is obvious. The Ménard case says the application of the law would be the same under Bill C-15B as it is now and that research would be quite appropriate.

The purpose of Bill C-15B is to consolidate, simplify and modernize the existing provisions to increase maximum penalties for cruelty to animals and take care of injured animals. I do not think anyone in the opposition would disagree with increasing penalties for people who abuse animals so the issue is taken more seriously. I think they would have a hard time with their consciences if they voted against increasing penalties for those who are cruel to animals.

I have had a lot of input from those in my riding who work in the humane society and others who strongly support the bill. It has been a large percentage of the input I have had on the issue.

Supply May 28th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, it is interesting the member would suggest that MPs should be chastized for not bringing up the farm bill at the recent meeting with congressmen in Rhode Island. A number of Alliance MPs were on that trip.

Supply May 7th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for raising that issue. It gives me a chance explain to those who might not understand when people suggest that the NAFTA might be causing these problems.

I do not think they understand how many more problems very similar to this we would have without a free trade agreement . The U.S. could do this unilaterally all the time and we would have all sorts of protectionism against our products.

Obviously in this situation, as the member has said, the NAFTA has not worked because there are sovereignty trade issues in both countries. Each country has the ability to offer programs of its own to protect its own businesses and maybe that is not appropriate. I think the minister would be happy to look at proposals the opposition has relating to fixing that up.

Supply May 7th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, I thank my hon. colleague for her question and also for the debate. Bloc members have brought forth the debate and have presented their material in a very positive light. Unlike the question that prompted my last answer, they have actually presented positive solutions. I have read the solutions.

More than half of my speech probably covered a number of the programs and solutions that we presented. The Bloc has offered even more solutions. I definitely think the government should look at them one by one.

I have a concern about some of the solutions. We cannot treat unemployed workers differently or prejudice other unemployed workers just because this issue is a debate in the House of Commons or is in the national press. Lots of people have the same devastating consequences of unemployment. We hope whatever solutions we come to will help those people equally as much as possible in the sectors where it is needed. I definitely agree we should review the solutions that the member's party has proposed.

Supply May 7th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, that is exactly the lack of solutions opposition members have been offering for the last few years. They know we have been negotiating. If they would like to offer something positive, I will answer it.

Supply May 7th, 2002

Mr. Speaker, as usual I primarily want to speak about my riding of Yukon. I will also give some details of HRDC programs related to softwood lumber.

As in all of the debates, I mostly want to talk to the Americans about my riding. Virtually all of the sawmills are closed now, even before the tariff that will be coming. I urge the Americans to see if they can find Yukon on their maps. It is right up there beside Alaska.

Yukon is so many hundreds of miles from them we could not possibly be a threat. It is a very rural area with only 30,000 people, with a lot of villages of between 500 and 1,000 people. How could we possibly be a threat to the great American empire? How could our sawmills be a threat to the Americans' great computerized sawmills and industry? It makes them look foolish that they would even consider putting a 27% tariff on our mills. A lot of the mills cannot open even without it. Look at the hostile environment, with temperatures of -30 degrees and -40 degrees. They have to pay heating costs, transportation costs and extra costs of living.

A recent consultant study of our industry suggested how important it would be even to eke out a little viability for our industry, a lot of which is white spruce. If the Americans find Yukon on their maps, they can consider how far we are from their markets and how improbable a threat we are.

I want to talk about some of the programs we have put in place. The Government of Canada recognizes that onerous tariffs imposed by the United States have the potential to create dislocation in the lives of individuals, their families and whole communities that depend upon the viability of the softwood lumber industry.

There is no question we face a serious and complex challenge, but we will confront it and solve it together. The federal, provincial and territorial governments as well as community leaders and industry all have a role in developing the solution. That is why I am pleased to speak to the motion by the hon. member for Joliette and explain to Canadians how we are responding to workers and communities caught in this difficult situation.

First and foremost we must remember that the employment insurance program applies everywhere in Canada. It has been specifically designed to respond to the changing levels of unemployment in any given region. Should the unemployment rate increase in a particular region, it becomes easier for workers to qualify for the benefits and the benefit period is extended.

We recognize that to suddenly lose a job as a result of circumstances beyond one's control can be very difficult. It can be a very traumatic experience to the wage earner and everyone in the family. The last thing Canadians need in a situation like that is a lengthy and complex process before they can receive the benefits they need and deserve. That is why HRDC will take a proactive approach to assist the affected individuals in each and every community with fast and efficient processing of claims.

Local officials will travel to workplaces to help displaced workers with their claims. To further speed up the process, we will work with employers to make use of automated payroll information where available. We will also ensure that we make full use of the flexibility of work sharing provisions under employment insurance which allows employers to shorten work weeks and reduce costs while employees receive income benefits to help cover the shortfall.

Past examples show that these approaches work and make a real difference. Last fall when significant layoffs occurred in Canada's airline, tourism and high tech sectors, we used precisely these approaches to great effect. While income assistance under employment insurance is a vital, immediate response to the needs of displaced softwood workers, it is only a part of what we need to do and what we will do. Sometimes workers need services that help them find work, such as skills development programs, career counselling, job search skills, assistance in preparing resumes and a variety of other services.

In the case of Quebec, in 1997 the province opted for a transfer agreement. It was given responsibility for designing and delivering its own active employment insurance measures. The Government of Canada increased the funding made available to Quebec from $457 million in 1997 to nearly $600 million this year to assist unemployed workers.

Workers in British Columbia can also obtain these services under the auspices of the co-managed labour market development agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of British Columbia. Over the last five years the value of the LMDA has increased by over 40% to $289 million this year, despite the fact that unemployment decreased over that time period.

This is a significant pool of resources upon which to draw. The joint federal-provincial management committee that oversees the LMDA has already identified the softwood sector as a priority for investment. We look forward to successful collaboration on this front.

As the Government of Canada indicated at the softwood summit on April 29, $13 million will be made available to help softwood lumber workers in British Columbia with the type of supports and services I just mentioned. I should add that the collaboration between the governments of Canada and B.C. will not stop at the LMDA itself. Our officials will work together to match clients with other federal, provincial or territorial programs drawing on our full range of tools and supports for displaced workers.

We will work with communities anywhere in Canada that are affected by these punitive tariffs because this trade dispute not only impacts companies, individual workers and their families, but whole communities as well. Many communities, particularly those in rural and remote areas, are heavily dependent on the softwood lumber industry for their economic and social well-being. That is why HRDC efforts will have a very clear community focus.

As a first step HRDC is already strengthening its capacity to track EI claims in the softwood sector so we have an ongoing accurate assessment of the extent of the dislocation and its impact on these communities.

Second, we will work with other departments, specifically Natural Resources Canada, Industry Canada and western diversification to do some community mapping. Specifically this will involve getting a detailed sense of the communities most likely to be affected and the degree of severity of the expected impact on any given community, given its level of dependence on the softwood industry.

Finally, just as we will work together to gain a fuller sense of the challenges we face, so too will we work jointly in the community as we respond, maximizing the integration and co-ordination of our efforts.

As we move forward, the key question is whether our existing tools, employment insurance income benefits and active measures are enough. It is important to recognize that we face a complex and dynamic situation. For example, even the United States has plans to impose duties. The U.S. housing market is booming. Given such cost cutting pressures, it will be a real challenge to gain a full sense of the potential impact.

We also need to consider broader issues including the state of the labour market in general and the softwood sector in particular, as well as broader questions of community and economic diversification. The key will be for us to work across federal government departments and with territorial and provincial governments as well as with community and industry leaders at the local level. By combining our experience and building on our partnerships we can better appreciate the nature of dislocations, make better use of the tools at our disposal and if needed, examine other potential avenues.

It can be seen that we are there in the communities across Canada, ready and willing to help as the need arises. I would like to thank the hon. member for moving the motion. I would like to say to those Americans who did not hear me the last several times, that the poor people in America, the people who cannot have houses, really do not need to suffer for a few industries to have increased prices put upon them by some local interest groups.

To some extent everyone in the House is passionate on this issue. We have to wage the battle. The Americans have to wage this battle, those who are losing out, those who have to pay the high prices for lumber. I hope we can all work together to solve the problem and in the meantime alleviate the problems of the workers.

Supply May 6th, 2002

Madam Speaker, I appreciate the member's comment. I think we do need to listen to the people.

The member mentioned four topics. The western task force was before my time in politics but the member made a good point when he said that we should be accountable to answer for the ideas that came out of that task force.

I was going to begin my comments by asking members to please not ask farming questions. I will not talk about wheat because Yukon is just too far detached but I will talk about drought. I am glad the member brought that up again because it is a very serious problem in western Canada. I am sure Liberal members and all members in the House understand the seriousness of that situation. In fact we are glad there is snow right now. We hope there will be a lot more water this year which will solve the problem, and that whatever else needs to be done will be done.

On the softwood lumber issue, as we know all members of the House have worked very hard and have spoken very passionately on this. Any further suggestions would be very helpful.