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  • His favourite word was quebec.

Last in Parliament March 2011, as Bloc MP for Drummond (Québec)

Lost his last election, in 2011, with 22% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 June 6th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I was not sure I could take part in this questions and comments period. Thank you for recognizing me. I would just like to ask my hon. colleague a question.

She talked about poverty in general, mentioning Canadian unity and Quebec sovereignty of course, and finally, quoted the principle of strength through unity. That is a principle often quoted even in my riding. However, based on fact rather than principles, in 1980, the Canadian debt was approximately $90 billion and unemployment was much lower than it is today. In Quebec alone, there were half as many people on welfare in 1980 as there are now.

So it was decided in 1980 that Canadian unity should be maintained. Fifteen years later, the debt has skyrocketed to nearly $550 billion and will reach $700 billion in just a few years, we are told; it is growing very fast. Unemployment is not double what it was, but almost. We now have 808,000 people on welfare. During these 15 years, we have come to realize that the gap between rich and poor is widening. The middle class is disappearing before our very eyes. Could the hon. member please explain how the strength through unity principle applies in that context?

The Environment June 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, how can the Minister of the Environment expect us to take seriously her commitment to the polluter pays principle, when, in 1994, the Canadian government initiated just 13 prosecutions under the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, which is 30 per cent less than in 1991, and 40 per cent less than in 1992. And that does not include contaminated sites in the Arctic which are not under the direct responsibility of the provinces. How can the minister explain such a drastic drop in the number of prosecutions, if not by a total lack of commitment to a stringent enforcement of the act?

The Environment June 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of the Environment.

In her recent answer to a question on the health hazards from 24 highly contaminated sites, the Minister of the Environment has reaffirmed the polluter pays principle and confirmed that Environment Canada denies any responsibility concerning so-called orphan sites.

Could the minister tell the House when the inventory of contaminated orphan sites will be completed by her department, and when she expects to be in a position to lay charges against owners who refuse to clean up their sites?

Royal Military College In Kingston May 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question was on Internet and not on the college itself.

Can the Minister of National Defence promise in this House-although it seems difficult to extract a commitment from him-that corrective measures will be taken and that, from now on, the information about the Kingston college on Internet will be available in both official languages?

Royal Military College In Kingston May 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of National Defence.

Since the Collège militaire royal in Saint-Jean was closed, the Minister of National Defence and the Prime Minister have repeatedly stressed their intention of making the Royal Military College in Kingston the showcase of Canadian bilingualism.

How does the defence minister explain that the information about the Kingston college on Internet is available in English only?

Questions On The Order Paper May 11th, 1995

Concerning old age pensions to how many recipients are benefits paid outside Canada and how do we ascertain that these recipients are still living?

Members Of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act May 9th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I was not supposed to speak in the House today. I was not planning to do so but I was touched by a few of the arguments of my friends from the Reform Party.

One of my friends from the Reform Party said, and I fully agree with him, that we the people of the House of Commons are getting rich while the poor people in Canada are getting poorer every day.

First, the goal of the Bloc Quebecois is the sovereignty of Quebec. There will be a referendum soon. If we win it, and I think we will, all the people from the Bloc will lose their jobs and we will have no pension. We are not in the debate for that reason.

Second, I was also touched by an argument that is often brought forward by my friends in the Reform and I fully agree with that argument too. Slowly but surely we are hitting the wall and it is going to be quite soon.

I was reading this morning that a few economists, probably Canadian economists, were talking about a possible recession not later than the beginning of 1996. I saw a few papers last week where a few economists from the United States were talking

about a possible slowdown in the U.S., say in 1997. All these things ahead of us are not good news at all.

Also we accept the fact that the Wall Street Journal was talking of a possible breakdown of Canada from an economical point of view. We can look at the budget too. My friends from the Reform Party said it many times and I agree with a lot of their suggestions.

If we look at the budget we see all the cuts and we very well know that despite the billions cut the debt problem will be there next year and the year after. We are in a vicious circle and if we do not do something, nothing will get us out of this circle.

Since the beginning of this Parliament I have been listening to the ideas of my friends from the Reform Party. If there is one thing I realized throughout all the arguments, I never said it before but I will say now, people in the Reform Party came here with a certain naive point of view. I say very positively they had a new way of seeing things. They wanted to change things in a system that has been going on and on forever. We have to have a naive point of view to change things.

Most people were in a type of profound deception and realized today that despite all the good ideas nothing will be changed. Up to a certain point I understand their feelings. The Reform Party should realize that despite all the good ideas it has, and some are effectively good ideas, it will never be able to put them to the test because the political situation will not allow it.

Perhaps my friends will not like this comment, but the Reform Party will never be elected in Quebec. My friends from the Reform who were second in many areas in Ontario could very well think of winning an election if Quebec were not there.

My friends should think seriously about supporting the sovereignty of Quebec. Otherwise all the good ideas will stay good ideas with no meaning at all because the Reform will never be in power to put those ideas to work.

I remind my friends we do not want to destroy Canada. We fully understand Canada must go through a profound change. We think one change has to be a political one. Our friends believe and I also believe it also has to be an economic change. We are ready to make the first part of the change, a political one, to become sovereign, and to take our fair share of the Canadian assets and the debt and pay it. Every day we will pay our share of the debt and we will go on. Canadians will be able to control their country the way they want to and Reform will be able to think seriously about getting into power and making the major changes it feels it must make. For the moment this is only a dream.

About three months ago I had a discussion with one of my friends from the Reform Party. He told me the only thing Quebec wants is more power and more money. My friend is absolutely right. What my friend did not seem to understand is that it is the federalists in Quebec who that. The sovereignists do not want that at all. We do not want more power and more money. We want all the power and no money at all. We want to be at home in Quebec. We will pay our fair share of the debt and the Reform Party will be able to get into power in Canada and make the major changes.

For the moment this idea may seem strange but it is one to think about. I hope my friends will think about it.

Lobbyists Registration Act May 5th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure for me to speak on Bill C-43, an act to amend the Lobbyists Registration Act and to make related amendments to other Acts, that my colleagues have already commented on extensively. I remind the House of the detailed analysis made by the member for Berthier-Montcalm. He explained the many reasons why the Bloc Quebecois would not support the bill.

Without getting into details, I will sum up the eight major flaws of this bill, as mentioned by my colleague. They concern the types of lobbyists, the requirement to disclose contracts, lobbyists' fees, the contacting of ministers and senior officials, the lobbyists' political ties, coalitions, contingency fees and, finally, the whole issue of the ethics counsellor. In fact, the Bloc Quebecois tabled 60 amendments, as my colleagues have already pointed out. They were all negatived.

The major flaw of this bill, the basic problem, is the fact that the ethics counsellor reports only to the Prime Minister. All those things that could enlighten the public will only enlighten the Prime Minister's office.

Again, as I had mentioned in the case of Pearson airport, it is like having a fox guarding the hen house. We all recall the bill to cancel the privatization of Pearson airport. It contained a clause allowing those claiming to have lost future profits to negotiate arrangements in a private meeting with the minister. That also was like asking the fox to guard the hen house.

This analysis of the bill, which was made by my colleagues much better than I could do it now, shows that the government has chosen to use smoke screen tactics in its bills. It says it will take certain actions, but the resulting bills show no sign of openness and everything will be decided by the Prime Minister's inner circle.

These smoke screen tactics have also been used for events that have occurred over the past 10 or 15 days, in this House, regarding two major problems surrounding Power DirecTv and Seagram.

For the benefit of our viewers, I will briefly outline the case of Power DirecTv. Last August, only two weeks after the CRTC announced its decision exempting Canadian satellite broadcasting companies from licencing requirements, the Liberal govern-

ment announced that it intended to review policies concerning direct broadcasting. A first, Mr. Speaker.

On November 29, 1994, the government decided to create a three member task force to review the CRTC decision, which ran contrary to the interests of Power DirecTv and prevented the company from going ahead with its plans; as we know, it wanted to broadcast from an American satellite, which the CRTC found unacceptable.

The task force received briefs from several groups, including Power DirecTv. On April 6, it submitted a detailed report tailor made for Power DirecTv, which is partly owned, as we know, by Power Corporation and Hughes Aircraft of Canada.

On April 26, the government adopted the report's recommendations, verbatim, and tabled two orders, telling Expressvu, a Canadian company, that it must now apply to the CRTC for a licence, thus delaying its going into operation, which was planned for September 1995. And yet, this company had simply abided by the CRTC decision. After that, the CRTC announced that the government could be liable to prosecution. Expressvu believes it has a vested right and I think that it is legally defendable.

And who is the head of Power DirecTv? André Desmarais, son-in-law of the Prime Minister and son of Paul Desmarais, CEO of Power Corporation.

This happened in the House, right here, and it was raised repeatedly during question period.

There was also the Seagram case which is just as obvious. The Minister of Canadian Heritage went incognito to Los Angeles, with two members of his staff, supposedly to meet major players in the U.S. film industry. He got there on the very day the deal to sell MCA to Seagram was signed. Seagram is a Bronfman company, and it just so happens that Paul Desmarais, the father-in-law of the Prime Minister's daughter, is a member of the board.

They say the minister was in the Bronfman suite while the deal was being signed. He denies he was aware of that transaction, which must be reviewed by the Minister of Industry. This review is necessary, it seems, in order to determine whether Seagram is a Canadian or an American company. If it is Canadian, there is no problem, and the investments are exempt from any further investigation. If it is American, Canada will protect its cultural market and will have to review several aspects of the transaction, particularly the buy-back of Canadian subsidiaries. And at that point, the minister, who just happened to be there, will have something to say on the issue.

The Minister of Canadian Heritage will have to be consulted, and there appears to be a conflict of interests.

Of course, the newspapers played the whole thing up and English Canadian newspapers wrote at length about the events surrounding that problem. I had brought here, to read it in the House, a one page article written in English that traces all the family and political ties, the people the Liberals are working for. And, at the heart of all this, we find Power Corporation in both cases.

And all the Prime Minister could say in response to the many questions, both from the Bloc and the Reform Party, is that he certainly had the right to find a good match for his daughter. We agree. But in fact, what we are finding through all this is that the government of Canada, in its agreement, has now become a branch of Power Corporation. So, it is using smoke screen tactics to explain what is actually going on in the House.

It also uses smoke screen tactics in its statements both in the House and outside of the House. For instance, when the Minister of Finance tells us in committee, with a lump in his throat, that we must absolutely tighten our belts, of course, he will tighten the belts of the poor, he will make cuts to unemployment insurance and social welfare, he will raise all the costs relating to post-secondary education, he will probably go after old age pensions, but the finance minister's ships are still sailing under a foreign flag. And then it dawns on us that those who are asking us to tighten our belts always wear suspenders.

The Prime Minister also makes statements in the House and outside of the House. For example, the Liberals said there were problems in Canada because of people who guzzled beer in front of their television set. But oddly enough, and these are smoke screen tactics again, they never talk about champagne drinkers slumped over in hotel lobbies, those who take advantage of tax havens to avoid paying taxes, about family trusts which they do not want to touch, or ever so slightly, if they have to.

They never talk about the hon. Peter Trudeau, who is getting a $1 million tax credit for the papers he is handing back to the government. That is welfare for the rich, Mr. Speaker. Brian Mulroney did the same thing; that too is welfare for the rich.

They hardly ever talk about Paul Tellier, the chairman of CN, who is getting a huge salary, who is having his mortgage paid off by CN at the taxpayers' expense, and who is laying everybody off.

They did talk a little about the $250,000 for new furniture spent by the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, while cuts are being made everywhere else. The only answer we got from his department is that furniture is expensive. I was a carpenter and cabinet maker before becoming a member of Parliament, and I can tell you that for $250,000, you can get some really nice furniture.

More smoke screen tactics, when the Prime Minister himself tells us that everything is going wrong in Canada because of Quebec. I do not know how many times I have heard him say that since he has been in politics. He started that as soon as he became a politician, even before he was given a portfolio.

Yet, we realize-I have said it before, but this is worth repeating-that is was in a period of political stability, in the years following the rejection of sovereignty by the people of Quebec in 1980, that Canada experienced interest rates over 20 per cent. So that is exactly the opposite of what the Prime Minister said.

It was in 1986, also, that the Canadian dollar tumbled to 69 cents. I remind you that at that time, the Mulroney and Bourassa governments were in office. That was before Meech and Charlottetown, the Bloc Quebecois did not even exist, and the Parti Quebecois was completely out of the picture. Therefore, there is no relationship between the disastrous state of Canada's finances and the political situation in Quebec. Once again, smoke screen tactics.

You will recall another masterminded statement, the one made by the Royal Bank just before Charlottetown, where they said that if Quebecers and Canadians rejected the Charlottetown agreement, it would mean the end of the world. We said no to Charlottetown and the world did not end, but of course this was all orchestrated to scare people. This was also a case of smoke screen tactics.

Let me give you another example of these tactics. The Prime Minister said that Quebec, through its premier, is showing contempt for democracy. I think we should review a bit of our history. Who was responsible for the patriation of the Constitution in 1982? The current Prime Minister. Who was involved in the implementation of the War Measures Act in Quebec? The current Prime Minister. I like to remind people that these measures were taken to scare Quebecers.

I will not say anything more on this issue, except that we also remember the smoke screen tactics used in 1980 when some politicians told us they were betting their seats that there would be some changes. There never were any changes and now, in 1995, our political situation has not changed at all. At the time, they tried to scare us by saying that if we voted yes to sovereignty, we would be crippled with debts, taxes and unemployment.

We said yes to Canada because we wanted to be team players, and what did that get us? Debts, taxes and unemployment. The debt has gone from $90 billion to $550 billion. Unemployment is constantly on the rise. We now have 808,000 people on welfare in Quebec. All this happened within Canada.

We were told it would take us 15 years to get back on our feet. That was in 1980, and now, 15 years later, were are in it up to our necks, and things will only get worse. The Wall Street Journal raised openly the very real possibility that Canada would go bankrupt. All this is part of a smoke screen strategy.

Petitions May 3rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36, I would like to table a petition on behalf of residents of my riding. The petition reads: We, the undersigned residents of the Province of Quebec, wish to call the attention of Parliament to the following: that the government should be made aware of the unfair treatment of seniors in implementing the elimination of the capital gains exemption. The fictitious capital gain which must be reported this year will count as a real gain, thereby forcing thousands of seniors who cannot afford to do so to pay back to the federal government their old age security benefits.

Therefore, your petitioners humbly pray Parliament to ask the government not to consider as real the fictitious gain made by taxpayers who chose to protect, in 1994, the capital gains exemption they had been entitled to until then.

Supply May 2nd, 1995

I think, Madam Speaker, that members cannot be referred to by name in the House, and I would urge my hon. colleague to remember this.