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Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was fact.

Last in Parliament February 2019, as Liberal MP for Kings—Hants (Nova Scotia)

Won his last election, in 2015, with 71% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Taxation March 16th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of National Revenue. In its ongoing efforts to build a richer government within a poorer country, the government has now decided to deduct employment insurance premiums from volunteer firefighters who receive honorariums.

Volunteer firefighters risk their lives to protect and serve their fellow citizens and they receive small honorariums in return. The government is rewarding their brave service with a cowardly tax grab.

Will the Minister of National Revenue stop this deplorable tax grab now?

Supply March 15th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, listening to the hon. member's comments, I wish to clarify our party's position on this motion. We are supporting this motion.

We believe this is an important issue that deserves discussion by members of parliament. Economists are discussing this issue as we are here today. They have been discussing this issue for months. I suggest that there are probably bureaucrats in the Department of Finance who are discussing this issue. As their elected officials, we owe Canadians at least that amount of respect to discuss the issue in this House.

I spoke to the reasons I am personally opposed to a common currency at this time. They are many of the same reasons the hon. member articulated. His party was the same party that opposed free trade in 1988. His party in the 1993 election in which he was elected opposed the GST. We cannot take the Liberals seriously.

Supply March 15th, 1999

Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. member for his question. I do not see supporting this motion and supporting the notion of further debate on a very important issue as in any way letting the Liberals off the hook. I have heard arguments that common currencies take away the sovereign ability for governments to implement bad economic policy. I would argue that if the Liberals listened to and perhaps took more Progressive Conservative policies, even they would have the capacity to implement some good economic policies. I commend the Liberals for having kept free trade and the GST and for maintaining the deregulated transportation, energy and financial services. Those were the policies of the Conservatives.

The only thing worse than the Liberals taking so unabashedly Conservative policies would be if they were to implement their own.

Supply March 15th, 1999

Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. member for his question.

The Conservative Party will be supporting this motion this evening. We believe it is fundamental for this parliament to discuss and explore these types of alternatives with debate that is respectful of the issues and respectful of other members of parliament.

However, I continue to have significant concerns about a common currency. It will be up to those proponents to debate their side of the argument and up to people like me to offer our views on the common currency. Where there is significant common ground on this issue is the recognition of some of the structural issues that need to be addressed in the Canadian economy either way.

One thing I failed to mention during my discourse is that if we were to have a common currency the U.S. could use the Canadian toonie for its new one dollar coin. We need to address this issue seriously and with a great deal of debate that will occur over a long period of time.

Supply March 15th, 1999

Madam Speaker, I would like to thank the Bloc Quebecois for bringing this important issue to the House of Commons for debate.

It is extremely important that as members of parliament we take time to debate not only the important issues facing us today but the important issues that will face Canadians in the future. We in this place can play a significant role in preparing Canadians for the risks and opportunities of the future. That is what this motion is all about.

The leader of the Bloc Quebecois spoke earlier today. I guess he previously had some ties to the Marxist-Leninist Party. Perhaps he was so disappointed that Marx was proven wrong about communism that he was anxious for an opportunity to prove that maybe Marx was right about capitalism. I can say that I am not in favour of a common currency for the Americas certainly at this time.

The European comparison and the Euro comparisons that have been made are highly specious. The European Union was a very intentional political union first which evolved over a 40 year period. It was focused on defence related issues and ultimately evolved into an economic union, particularly in the post cold war environment.

The 1992 Maastricht Treaty was reached after a considerable amount of debate and discussion. Ultimately a lot of sacrifice and work went into ensuring the countries that eventually signed on to the Euro complied with the Maastricht criteria.

This is a very complicated issue. I would hope that the Bloc Quebecois is not supporting some race to a common currency in the short term because clearly Canada is not ready for it.

If we were to look at the weakness of the Canadian dollar and the secular decline in the Canadian dollar over the past 30 years, our Canadian dollar would now be at record lows. It would be extremely inadvisable for Canada to entertain participating in a common currency now when we would not be negotiating from a position of strength. To permanently entrench that position of weakness would be inadvisable.

If we were to try to strengthen our currency in the short term with interest rate policies, the Canadian economy simply could not stand the increase in interest rates necessary to strengthen the Canadian dollar to be in a strong negotiating position in a common currency for the Americas.

It was interesting last summer to see the Prime Minister's approach to the Canadian dollar. At one point he even had the audacity or economic naiveté to say that the lower Canadian dollar was actually good for tourism.

I think most members in this House would agree that a nation cannot devalue its way to prosperity. In fact, the logical corollary of the Prime Minister's arguments last summer would be that if we reduced our dollar to zero and gave away all our merchandise, we would be the greatest trading nation in the world. The fact is that we would not be getting any money for those goods. A country cannot devalue its way to prosperity and it is naive to assume that a country can.

A secular decline in the Canadian dollar has occurred, a significant amount of which has been due to the secular decline in Canada's productivity. Productivity in Canada needs to be addressed with taxation issues, the differences in the Canadian tax system, our levels of taxation and the structure of our tax code relative to our trading partners. Those issues need to be addressed. Interprovincial trade barriers, our regulatory burden, all these issues need to be addressed. It is going to take a long time to strengthen our Canadian currency through that type of systemic, holistic approach to very complicated issues.

Some proponents of a common currency say the positive of a common currency would be that it would take the power away from the government to make bad economic decisions. I have more faith in parliamentarians, in this House, in the ability for a sovereign country to make the right types of decisions for the future than those who would advance that type of argument. That is a very perverse argument to make, that to make the types of decisions necessary for Canadians in the future, we somehow have to rip more power away from this sovereign parliament and away from our sovereign Canadian institutions in terms of the Bank of Canada.

Without the exchange rate mechanism which currently compensates for the disparity between our productivity and that of the U.S. for instance, our unemployment rates would become the operative mechanism. The leader of the Bloc Quebecois concurred with me this morning that in fact in the short term this would be a major issue.

I do not believe that Canadians want to see as part of any step toward a common currency an increase in unemployment rates. I do not believe Canadians can afford an increase in our unemployment rates, particularly in the riding I represent in Atlantic Canada which has seen insufferably high unemployment rates. In the process of embracing this common currency or further globalization and emasculation of our national institutions, a higher unemployment rate as a cost or a casualty of that is not acceptable.

In the long term, many of us will recognize trends toward global integration, in some cases political and in some cases economic. As the party that introduced and supported free trade, we recognize and continue to believe that free trade and the free trade agreements have led to increased opportunities for Canadians. We believe there are opportunities in globalization. We also believe that Canadians have to be prepared to embark on that journey. That takes certain types of economic policy.

For instance, the replacement of the manufacturers sales tax with the GST was one of the domestic changes necessary to embrace freer trade. It ensured Canadians had an opportunity to participate in freer trade and had an opportunity to prosper as a result of freer trade and Canadians have. We believe all Canadians need to be positioned to prosper in a more global environment.

To relentlessly pursue one element of globalization, a common North American currency, without dealing head on with the issues that have consistently hurt our Canadian dollar, productivity issues such as taxation, interprovincial trade barriers and the regulatory burden in Canada, would be naive.

I have a great deal of respect for my colleagues in the Bloc Quebecois. I am sure they would understand my position as a Canadian and my value of Canadian sovereignty. They would understand the importance of our defending the sovereignty of our nation and preparing Canadians to participate in any global opportunity and challenge in the future.

I would hope this is not an issue being advanced by the Bloc Quebecois in some way to further reduce Canadian sovereignty with the hope somehow that it would increase Quebec's sovereignty. As a Canadian I believe that the recognition of Quebec as an inextricable part of Canada is fundamental. I believe very strongly that the distinctiveness of Quebec is extremely important and I defend that, as does my party as a national party in the House of Commons. I would certainly hope that reciprocally members of the Bloc Quebecois would not be advancing this argument to somehow reduce the sovereignty of our country. I would not be so cynical as to assume they would be advancing this as a uni-dimensional attack on Canadian sovereignty.

Sovereignty is a very important issue. While the U.K. has for a significant time, since Mrs. Thatcher, implemented types of changes necessary in the U.K. to prepare the British for the opportunities of the future and to undo a lot of the damages the Labour Party had inflicted on the English prior to her election, U.K. arguments against the common currency in Europe have not been economic arguments solely. They have been arguments on the sovereign right of a nation to determine its own future.

I believe parliament and Canadian institutions have the authority and can make the right decisions. I do not believe we need to remove power from Canadian institutions to somehow ensure Canadians become competitive.

Supply March 15th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the leader of the Bloc Quebecois. Has he considered that the European Union, which took 40 years to reach a point where it even considered a common currency with the Maastricht treaty in Holland, first had a political union with the European parliament and was very much focused on defence issues and other issues that superseded economic issues?

It seems from my perspective that the Bloc is potentially cherry-picking one element of the European Union policy when in fact holistically the European Union has dealt more predominantly with defence and political issues.

A floating exchange rate provides an ability through that mechanism for the exchange rate to reflect relative levels of productivity. Without that unemployment would emerge as potentially the main floating mechanism to reflect those changes.

Would he be satisfied with an unemployment rate in Canada higher than it is now? Considering the fact that Quebec has a relatively high provincial debt, would he be satisfied with higher unemployment rates for Quebec?

Banks March 10th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, contrary to what the Prime Minister said today, our party did not support bank mergers. We supported the Minister of Finance standing up for and defending Canadians and negotiating the best deal for Canadians on service charges, services to rural communities, branch access and money for small business.

When the minister had an opportunity to get a better deal for Canadians, he said no. Now his decision has meant higher banking charges for Canadians.

Given that he has given up the opportunity to negotiate a better deal for Canadians, what is he going to do to protect Canadians now?

Banking March 10th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, Canadians should not have to pay the price for the finance minister's leadership campaign. Canadians now face higher borrowing costs and their investment savings are jeopardized by the blind ambition of the finance minister.

Will the minister commit to seeking a full study, an expert review, of the cost of this downgrading on Canadians and table that study in the House of Commons?

Banking March 10th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, it is interesting that the finance minister did not answer this question. I guess he is very concerned about his own leadership race and recognizes the vulnerability of his decisions.

Banking March 10th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, yesterday the finance minister said that our banking sector is very strong and that Canadians can feel very good about our financial institutions. Yet when the Dominion Bond Rating Service downgraded the credit ratings of our banks yesterday, it was saying that the minister is very wrong. The service blamed the minister's decision to block bank mergers for this downgrading.

What will the minister do to protect Canadians against the certain costs of this downgrading?