Canada-China Relations committee  That's correct.

Canada-China Relations committee  Absolutely.

Canada-China Relations committee  I've been a critic of elements of the Indo-Pacific strategy, so let me be clear: I'm not here to defend the government's position on this. I think the Indo-Pacific strategy is about a lot more than the Indo-Pacific. It's partly about our relationship with the United States, but it's also about our relationship with the developing world and the points that Mr.

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you for that. The film without an ending is a very interesting idea. What I was going to end with is that we're at a very difficult moment in the Canadian approach to the Indo-Pacific. The China question is going to be of enduring difficulty and challenge, but we also have a challenge with the United States.

Canada-China Relations committee  I'm not sure I understand the full import of the question. I think understanding China is complicated. It is not a single entity with a predefined long-term position. China is mobile. On human rights, if that is the essence of the question, the Chinese situation is abhorrent in a number of ways, but it is flexible around the edges.

Canada-China Relations committee  The translation was interesting. Canada is not going to be able to change Chinese behaviour by calling it out, though we must do it for our own domestic purposes. On economic coercion issues, I think we can fight back in specific areas, but I think there's room to talk with China about economic coercion of great powers.

Canada-China Relations committee  I had the opportunity over 12 years to run 22 meetings with North Koreans, 10 of them with the Chinese in those sessions. The baseline on this is that no one has influence over North Korea. It's extremely difficult. In the case of China, the tensions between North Korea and China are considerable.

Canada-China Relations committee  Thank you. The professor emeritus really just takes the role of a pensioner in coming to this group. Thank you for a third opportunity to appear before the committee. This time it's on the China dimension of the government’s Indo-Pacific strategy. Now at the implementation stage, the strategy provides a platform and resources for dozens of initiatives involving multiple departments here at home and multiple players in the region.

Canada-China Relations committee  This is strange to say, but I think I got the right question and the right answer a year and a half ago. What that means is that as we're looking at how we're going to put those fences around certain kinds of Chinese activities, etc., the challenge is that our American friends are demanding regularly that we expand those areas into biomedical work.

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Chong, we'd enjoy inviting you to the University of British Columbia. We are plotting what we are going to do to try to diminish some of those intra-Chinese hostilities among our students when people resume in September.

Canada-China Relations committee  Mr. Bergeron, I wish I could give you a positive answer. I would say that some of us had hoped that once we get the three Ms problem solved, difficult as that might be in the time frame, we can revert and go back to where we were and the storm will subside. I've come to the view that we are now in a context not just of a storm with China but that we have entered a new season.

Canada-China Relations committee  Yes, unquestionably, but it's not perfectly received. China is not seen as the great benefactor of the world, but they're seen as pretty useful. It doesn't mean China is going to dominate, but it does mean that China is going to play a much bigger role. The balance of forces is changing.

Canada-China Relations committee  Getting China into multilateral institutions was a major part of Canadian policy from the time we recognized China, and helped it get into the United Nations. We have to face a whole new challenge in working with the Chinese on multilateralism now. We don't teach them how to play the game; they are designing the rules for the game.

Canada-China Relations committee  As an academic, I have a lot of difficulty finding ways to influence or have impact even in my own country, in Ottawa, with the people at this table, but if we look at it from the perspective of Chinese short-term and long-term advantages, if we see through their eyes what they want out of peacekeeping, we won't like some of it, but some of what they want to do in peacekeeping we can encourage.

Canada-China Relations committee  If I were to give a one-sentence answer, it would be that the universities need to be more transparent to the media and to our politicians about what they are doing with China, whether that's about the Confucius Institutes or funding from Huawei. “Head in the sand” is not the right way to convince Canadians that we are doing something that is in all of our interests and that we're aware of the risks.