Evidence of meeting #15 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.
A recording is available from Parliament.
4:20 p.m.
As an Individual
I've had meetings with the four people you've mentioned. I can't recall with certainty the specific meeting you're describing at this point.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
Did you ever make any cash payments on behalf of GCI, Frank Moores, Gary Ouellet, Karlheinz Schreiber, or Bear Head Industries to any political parties, or to Fred Doucet or Mr. Brian Mulroney?
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
What can you tell us about the involvement of GCI in the Airbus purchased by Air Canada?
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
What can you tell us about the involvement of GCI with MBB?
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
What can you tell us about the relationship between Thyssen, Bear Head, and GCI?
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
So it means indirectly, because if GCI had a client relationship with Thyssen.... So now you're saying that Bear Head was directly or indirectly involved with GCI?
4:25 p.m.
As an Individual
Bear Head was a project with the company that Thyssen gave as the name of their Canadian project as they decided to proceed and endeavour to build a manufacturing facility in Canada and bid towards the Canadian armoured vehicle requirements.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
So what do you know about Mr. Brian Mulroney's involvement with Bear Head Industries?
4:25 p.m.
As an Individual
He didn't have involvement in Bear Head Industries. Bear Head Industries was a Thyssen-owned company that was hoping to bid for the Canadian military vehicle requirements.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
What do you know about Mr. Brian Mulroney's involvement with the pasta company?
4:25 p.m.
As an Individual
Could you help me understand what your question is? I'm sorry, I don't quite understand the meaning of your question.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC
What do you know about Mr. Mulroney's involvement with Spaghettismo?
4:25 p.m.
As an Individual
In about--I can't get the year right--1999, he visited a test installation of this project, and a presentation was made to him to demonstrate the technology. He had quite an interest in the raw product, which of course is pasta and a wheat-based product.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
4:25 p.m.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Thank you very much. It is not easy to testify via videoconference, and it is even harder with translation. We will try to make this as easy as possible.
Mr. Alford, you were Frank D. Moores’ assistant when he was the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador. You were a GCI shareholder from 1984 to 1988, and you were the vice-president of Bear Head Industries in Ottawa from 1988 to 1996. It would be fair to say that you were in the thick of the action we are talking about today, even though you did not play a leading role in it. At least, that is the impression that people around this table have.
I believe that you were aware of everything that happened, and you must have read the four books about these issues very eagerly. Did you read them?
4:30 p.m.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
No, I will not ask you to do that today.
You were the vice-president of Bear Head Industries. As such, you answered directly to Thyssen in Germany. Is that right? The chair was in Germany.
4:30 p.m.
As an Individual
I'd like to correct some of your introduction. I indeed did work with GCI, but I was not a partner in GCI.
In answer to your question now--where did I report on the Thyssen company Bear Head Industries--my line of report was directly to Germany.
4:30 p.m.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Did you know Marc Lalonde, whose testimony you just heard a few minutes ago?
