Evidence of meeting #7 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was letter.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

You won't?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Therefore, the letter that was sent in 2006 is true?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

In 2006...which one are you talking about?

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

The one that was sent to Brian Mulroney saying basically that you were good friends, you'd got value for money, and that Airbus was a hoax.

You signed your name to that, so it's true.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

How much more often do you want to hear from me that this letter was requested? In my position, when he said he wanted to help me, I would have signed other letters for him too. So what?

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

We were making progress, Mr. Schreiber. You said that you would not sign something that was not true.

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Bloc

Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC

There is a problem with the interpretation.

There's a problem with the translation.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Order.

I understand there's a translation problem. Could we test it?

Okay.

There's about a minute left in this round.

Although it makes good conversation when two people are having a nice chat, because of the jumping in of people, the translators have to look to see who's speaking. So we need a question and an answer. Let people finish, okay?

All right, take one more minute.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Mr. Schreiber, just to be clear, you said you would not sign your name to something that was not true.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

I said to you a minute ago, in my situation that day, if Mr. Mulroney would have asked me to sign another letter for him to speak to Mr. Harper to fix the whole problem around me and get an inquiry, I would have done another letter too.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Okay.

Now I have to go back to the “Everything we have to do, we have to do” quote. So what you're saying is that you would sign your name to something that wasn't true, because that fits under the “Everything we have to do, we have to do” statement.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes. If Mr. Mulroney told me that day I should have said something else, I would have signed it.

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Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Thank you.

I have nothing further.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Thank you.

Mr. Gérard Asselin.

December 6th, 2007 / 12:20 p.m.

Bloc

Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am going to try and proceed as quickly as possible in order to allow Mrs. Lavallée to use any time I may have left.

Mr. Schreiber, as I understand it, you stated under oath that Fred Doucet had asked you for $300,000 for Mr. Mulroney. Is that correct?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No. Mr. Doucet asked me to help financially. There was no amount discussed.

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Bloc

Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC

That means that you made a contribution to Mr. Mulroney at Mr. Doucet's request.

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As an Individual

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Bloc

Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC

If I have understood correctly, you stated under oath that you agreed, at the request of Fred Doucet or Elmer MacKay, to contribute $30,000 to Jean Charest's campaign. Is that correct?

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As an Individual

12:20 p.m.

Bloc

Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Did you know that Fred Doucet was Peter MacKay's chief organizer?

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As an Individual

12:20 p.m.

Bloc

Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Did you know that Fred Doucet was Peter MacKay's chief organizer when Mr. MacKay was running for the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party?

12:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes. I saw this lately in the paper. I didn't know at the time.