Evidence of meeting #7 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was letter.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, not to my recollection.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Are you aware that Peter MacKay has taken steps to distance himself from you, to even say that he's always advised his father to never have anything to do with you? Why do you think he would stand up for you and be a reference for you in this letter of introduction to Vic Toews?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Mr. Pat Martin, one of your colleagues told me that when Elmer MacKay was in the House, he was terrible in opposition. He always showed up like an Italian priest, and everybody knew this was an honest man--Marc Lalonde. Now, they were not friends.

I want to tell you, Elmer MacKay, in my opinion--and I would be prepared, if you want, here or outside, whenever you want, to tell you a couple of stories about the human being Elmer MacKay. But allow me not to comment on his son. He is not of the same timbre, and I don't want to talk about it if I can.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

He went to lengths to distance himself from you. I'm just wondering—

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Okay, and he knows he speaks about the Thyssen job in Germany and that he was there as a student. On his own website he says he was there for a year with Thyssen. He was there to get prepared for a future job with Bear Head Industries as one of the executives. I don't know why he's doing this.

But, look, if you understand, I don't want to....

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

We can move on from that.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Just to let you know, you have five and a half minutes left.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I'm going to share my time with my colleague Joe Comartin, as is our common practice.

The Honourable Charlie Mayer shows up on here, another Manitoba cabinet minister. Did they ever come to you for help with a problem in Manitoba? Did you ever help them fix a political problem in Manitoba above and beyond a business deal?

11:40 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No. I got to know Charlie much later, maybe two or three years ago. To my recollection, I had no contact with him when he was in government.

11:40 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Thank you.

I'd like to let Mr. Comartin take the remaining time.

December 6th, 2007 / 11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Schreiber, when did the conversation take place with Mr. Doucet when he mentioned Mr. Mulroney and the money that came from Airbus. Was it a telephone conversation?

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, no. I was in the office with him at GCI. Fred Doucet was working for me as well. It must have been either late 1992 or early 1993.

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Was Mr. Mulroney the Prime Minister of Canada at the time?

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Were other people present during that conversation?

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

When did Mr. Moores say that it was none of your business?

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Either the same day or a day later.

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Did you write a memorandum or a document about that conversation?

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, sir. Who would do things like that?

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Well, Mr. Schreiber, the media has been quite strong on how well you keep records, so let me ask you about that. Have you kept a diary at all through the period of time you've been in Canada?

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

When I was in Canada?

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

Yes.

11:45 a.m.

As an Individual

11:45 a.m.

NDP

Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON

When did you come to Canada?