Evidence of meeting #7 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was letter.
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12:20 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
When you contributed the money, you were not aware that Fred Doucet was the organizer for Peter MacKay?
12:20 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
No, I am talking about the leadership campaign of the Progressive Conservative party in which Peter McKay was running. Did you know that Fred Doucet was his organizer?
12:20 p.m.
As an Individual
No, sir, because I had no contact with him, as I told you earlier. I had contact with his father, not with him.
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
Did Fred Doucet, or anyone else, such as Elmer MacKay, the father of the current Minister of National Defence, solicit funds from you for Peter MacKay's campaign for the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party?
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
Mr. Schreiber, you contributed money to Mr. Mulroney, and you contributed money to Jean Charest. You are a very great friend of Elmer MacKay, but you did not contribute to Peter MacKay's campaign for the leadership. That is difficult to understand.
12:25 p.m.
As an Individual
Sir, I contributed to the Conservative Party--that's number one--not to these people.
Number two, I had no relationship with Peter MacKay in those days.
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
Yet it is difficult to understand that you admit—and do so with pleasure—that you are great friends with Elmer MacKay. You do not deny that.
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
OK. Elmer MacKay is the father of Peter MacKay, the current Minister of National Defence in the Harper government.
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
During Mr. Mulroney's leadership race, you made contributions to him, correct?
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
During Mr. Charest's leadership race, you also made contributions to him, correct?
December 6th, 2007 / 12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
I do not understand how you, who are such good friends with Elmer MacKay, Peter MacKay's father, can not have been asked to contribute to Peter MacKay's campaign.
12:25 p.m.
As an Individual
I was not asked by his father. I think--I can only guess--that he knew it could become an embarrassment because I am not on good terms with Peter MacKay. He has such a different personality than his father, I have not much in common with him.
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Gérard Asselin Bloc Manicouagan, QC
So, as I understand it, you have made no contribution directly or indirectly to the campaign of Peter MacKay .
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
Mr. Schreiber, I would like to come back to the letter that you wrote, which is nothing more nor less than a threatening letter. If you wanted to threaten him with something, the information that you were threatening to disclose had to be substantial and significant.
Earlier, you told me that you knew...In this letter, you say that you are ready to disclose that Mr. Mulroney had received money from GCI. To threaten Mr. Mulroney with disclosing that, you would have had to know exactly why, how, how much and when. Mr. Mulroney would also have had to know that you knew. Since he did not respond favourably to the letter, tell us the story, tell us when Mr. Mulroney received money from GCI. How much? When? For which contract? Do not get upset, we are here and we are listening.
12:25 p.m.
As an Individual
Ma'am, I'm sorry that I repeat myself now. It was when Fred Doucet came with his request, and Mr. Moores and Mr. Ouellet told me I should stay away from this, it is in their hands, and they look after Brian Mulroney. I hope very much that with the witnesses, or whatever evidence we may have in an inquiry, we bring that out. I have no idea what it is, and I tell you quite frankly, at no time would I have been interested in being involved in something like this.
12:25 p.m.
Bloc
Carole Lavallée Bloc Saint-Bruno—Saint-Hubert, QC
When was that, on what date? At what point did Fred Doucet ask you to transfer funds to Mr. Mulroney? What year was that?
12:25 p.m.
As an Individual
I said a minute ago to the gentleman over there that my recollection is 1992, 1993. I don't know exactly.