Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:25 p.m.
Conservative
Jeremy Patzer Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK
We had sent a subamendment, because we are allowed to do that. The subamendment I sent to the clerk said that BQ-6 should be subamended by deleting the word “legislative”.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Chair, I would like to speak on the point of order as well.
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Conservative
Jeremy Patzer Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK
It's important that we acknowledge that there have been subamendments submitted to the clerk. The problem is that, even when it's quiet in here, we still can't hear what we're voting on, because you haven't made it abundantly clear to the committee which ones we're voting on here. We didn't even know what we were on. Therefore, there is no queue to try to get your attention to make doubly sure you received the subamendments we submitted.
I read through the motion order as provided by the House of Commons. It does not say anything about subamendments, which would therefore imply that we have the full right and ability to move them.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Mr. Patzer, thank you for your point of order.
Subamendments are not admissible after 8:30.
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Conservative
Jeremy Patzer Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK
It doesn't say that. Where does it say that?
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
We have to be on the clause of the amendment to move a subamendment. Your amendments were provided in advance, but we were not on the clause where you could propose a subamendment.
We are now in—
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
Would you let the clerks advise us on the rules, since you don't know them?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Colleagues, I'm going to once again ask members not to turn on their mics.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Chair, I have a point of order. I don't even know what the chair's ruling is.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Colleagues, it's very clear.
To Mr. Patzer's point of order, it says, “and if the committee has not completed the clause-by-clause consideration of the bill by 8:30 p.m., all remaining amendments submitted to the committee shall be deemed moved”.
Now that they have been moved and we are in a vote, we are voting on each one without further debate.
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Conservative
Jeremy Patzer Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK
It's not debate. It's a subamendment. The House order says nothing about moving subamendments. Please point to the spot in here where it says we cannot move a subamendment.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Mr. Patzer has challenged the chair, and there is a vote on the floor.
Shall the chair's ruling be sustained?
9:30 p.m.
Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
The ruling is this: You cannot move subamendments at this point. I made a ruling, and the vote is because Mr. Patzer challenged the chair.
Shall the chair's ruling be sustained?
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)
