Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We are on CPC-65.

If CPC-65 is adopted, CPC-66, CPC-67, CPC-68, CPC-69, CPC-70, CPC-71, CPC-72 and CPC-73 and amendments in package L cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Shall CPC-65 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 21 as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)

(On clause 2)

Since clause 2 was postponed, the committee will now vote on clause 2 and its proposed amendments.

On clause 2, we have amendment BQ-1.

Shall BQ-1 carry?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

We gave notice of a subamendment for this one, to strike “obligations and” from paragraph (a).

Assuming that we are voting for that, because that was what the subamendment to this one was, I would have voted in favour of it. Since I don't know what's happening, I'm going to say....

[Vance Badawey, Liberal, Niagara Centre, ON]

You're voting for it.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

Are we going to do a subamendment? Is that—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Patzer, we're on BQ-1, amending clause 2.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

We have a question, though. Can someone answer our question?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

This is on the subamendment that was submitted. The directive from the House does not actually exclude subamendments, so—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

The rules are not being followed. The chair is absolutely making things up as he goes along and is backed up by the NDP and Liberals. I just want to get.... It's the middle of the night in Ottawa, and this whole thing has been pushed through behind closed doors, which is exactly what this bill will be.

I just want to give verbal notice that the committee has lost confidence in the member for Calgary Skyview as the chair of the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and instructs the clerk to organize an election of a new chair.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

I think that there's someone who is speaking over the vote. I can't hear it.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 1[See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

That is defeated.

CPC-1 is inadmissible, as the interpretation clause of a bill is not the place to propose a substantive amendment to a bill unless other amendments have been adopted. In that case, amendments to the interpretation clause would be warranted.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge your ruling, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Patzer has challenged the ruling of the chair.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

Thank you, Chair.

Obviously, we disagree that this is a substantive amendment. I mean, this is definitely—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We will go to a challenge of the chair's ruling.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

Shall amendment NDP-1 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall amendment BQ-2 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 10; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall amendment LIB-1 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

If CPC-2 is adopted, CPC-3 cannot be moved or voted on because of a line conflict.

Shall amendment CPC-2 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall amendment CPC-3 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we'll go to NDP-2. If NDP-2 is adopted, BQ-3 becomes moot and cannot be moved or voted on.

Shall NDP-2 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 2 as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

We are now at the preamble.

If LIB-12 is adopted, CPC-74 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Shall amendment LIB-12 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We are now at CPC-75, which is inadmissible. The amendment seeks to make a substantive modification by adding new elements to the preamble. Since no amendment has been adopted to warrant the addition of these new elements, I declare the amendment inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge your declaration, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a challenge of the chair.

We will now proceed to a vote to sustain the chair's ruling.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

CPC-76 is also inadmissible. The amendment seeks to make a substantive modification by adding new elements to the preamble. Since no amendment has been adopted to warrant the addition of these new elements, I declare the amendment inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge your declaration.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a challenge of the chair.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

CPC-77 is inadmissible. The amendment seeks to make a substantive modification by adding new elements to the preamble. Since no amendment has been adopted to warrant the addition of these new elements, I declare the amendment inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge your declaration.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a challenge of the chair's ruling. We will proceed to a vote.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

CPC-78 is also inadmissible for the same reasons provided previously.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge those rulings again, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a challenge to the chair. We will proceed to a vote.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

CPC-79 is also inadmissible, for the same rationale provided earlier.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I also challenge that ruling.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a challenge to the chair. We will go to a vote to sustain the chair's ruling.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

CPC-80 is also inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge the chair.