Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

—I vote that we go in camera, and that's not debatable. I vote to go in camera.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm raising a point of order, and you can't move a motion on a point of order.

He can't move a motion on a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you, Mr. Angus.

You can't move on a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Okay. We are going to suspend.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I call the meeting back to order.

We were on the subamendment, so we will go to Mr. Angus on the subamendment.

Yes, Mr. Genuis, you have a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

First of all, when we were debating the subamendment, we were in the middle—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

You lost.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm sorry, but I was speaking and not Mr. Angus.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We're into debate, Mr.—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Mr. Genuis is not a member of the committee. I object if he wants to speak. He needs to have—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm subbed in. I'm duly subbed in, Charlie.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

He was voted down. He's challenging the chair again.

[An hon. member]

No.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I have the floor. [Inaudible—Editor] my time to speak. It's all about freedom of speech, isn't it?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a point of order from Mr. Patzer.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

Thank you.

As Mr. Angus knows, the rules do actually allow for other members to be subbed into the committee, which Mr. Genuis was at the start of the meeting. For him to impugn he is not a member of the committee is, by any stretch, out of order and should not even be entertained or be allowed to be said that way. I hope he withdraws that statement.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you, Mr. Patzer, on that point of order.

We have a point of order from Mr. Genuis.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

I actually have a few points of order.

First of all, if we are debating a subamendment, I was up because I was given the floor, and that was the point at which I sought to move the question of privilege. Insofar as your ruling retrospectively that I could not move the question of privilege, no motion was moved, and I still have the floor on the subamendment.

I have various other objections to the way you've conducted this committee as it relates to the motion of privilege, but that aside, I had the floor, which was when I tried to move the question of privilege.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a point of order from Mr. Angus.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

You recognized me as having the floor. Every time I've tried to speak, I've been interrupted and attacked by the Conservatives. That is intimidation. I asked you, Chair, to let me speak. I'm here in good faith to do my job, and we have serious legislation, so I have the floor, and I will continue.

The subamendment that has been brought forth—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Angus, please hold on.

We have a point of order from Mr. Patzer.