Public Safety Committee on Dec. 7th, 2007

Evidence of meeting #11 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was case.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (certificate and special advocate) and to make a consequential amendment to another Act

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lynda Clairmont Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Emergency Management and National Security, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Daniel Therrien Acting Assistant Deputy Attorney General, Citizenship, Immigration and Public Safety Portfolio, Department of Justice

David Dunbar General Counsel, Canada Border Services Agency

Warren Woods Senior Policy Analyst, Operational Policy Section, National Security Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Clerk of the Committee Mr. Roger Préfontaine

Joann Garbig Procedural Clerk

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

As introduced.

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Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Including “resources”.

(Amendment agreed to)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Now we'll go back to the Liberal amendment.

Mr. Dosanjh.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

We can simply—

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I believe in the amendment there is also a “défenseur“ that...

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Whoa, just a minute here. Let's do this in order.

Mr. Dosanjh first.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

I would withdraw that motion whose consideration was postponed. That's Liberal-2, page 12.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

I'm looking at the French here, which is not....

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Liberal

Roy Cullen Liberal Etobicoke North, ON

Avocats spéciaux...

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

We will make that change, Monsieur Ménard, that you're about to raise here. We can take it for granted that the change will be made. Okay? Bien sûr.

Mr. MacKenzie, do you have a translation for “and resources” that you added to your motion?

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Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

I'd do well to get it out in English.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay. It's going to be taken care of.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

I've withdrawn this motion, but I understand that amendment G-7 shall also pass if there's some consensus.

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Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Yes.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Because that is part of the special advocate.

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Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Yes.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

It is a conditional withdrawal, yes.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Conditionally withdrawn.

To be clear, you're not proceeding with Lib-2?

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Yes, provided G-7 passes, and I think it will pass.

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Liberal

Roy Cullen Liberal Etobicoke North, ON

Have we any translation for “and resources”?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes, they're going to look after it. Don't confuse me.

We'll go to Monsieur Ménard.

Are amendments BQ-5 and BQ-6 linked or...?

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I do not understand. They are the same.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

BQ-6 and BQ-5. I don't....

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David Dunbar General Counsel, Canada Border Services Agency

One has “défenseur“.

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An honourable member

“Avocat spécial“.