Evidence of meeting #43 for Public Safety and National Security in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was rcmp.
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4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Rick Norlock Conservative Northumberland—Quinte West, ON
Mr. Chair, if the member would just allow me to speak....
4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Rick Norlock Conservative Northumberland—Quinte West, ON
I did not interrupt her except to say that I had a point of order.
As I've previously stated in my questions, I didn't think that this committee asked the RCMP commissioner or his representatives to come here to talk about individual personnel issues.
However, if that's the case, if we're going to make accusations, then we have to name those individuals. If this is going to become, I don't know, some kind of witch hunt, we need to hear both sides of the story rather than hear that, well, there are some anonymous individuals and other individuals....
4:25 p.m.
An hon. member
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4:30 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
We're already on a point of order.
I think it's taking it right to the limits, Madame Mourani, to be fair. The inside managerial style is one thing. To basically question another about behind-the-door meetings, to ask whether anyone was verbally abusive.... An answer to that would depend on what “verbally abusive” would even mean to you. In this committee, you may think that one member was verbally abusive to another, and yet to someone else it would not even come close to what you are suggesting. So I think it's open to an opinion, a interpretation, as to what your view of “verbally abusive” is.
I see that our clock is at 4:30. I want to thank each of you—
4:30 p.m.
Bloc
Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC
Mr. Chairman, you have been preventing me from speaking for a while now. How can that be? You are preventing me from asking my question. Mr. Killam did not answer me. I will make my question very simple.
Has Mr. Killam ever heard Mr. Elliott insult anyone?
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson
Madame Mourani, thank you for that.
Because you're going on and on, I'll tell you what did happen. What did happen was that I gave Mr. Gaudet too much time, so I was trying to be lenient and let you go over your time. You were well over your time limit. So with all due respect, I thank you.
I want to thank the commissioner, the deputies, and each one of you for appearing here today. We do appreciate your testimony and your frankness in your answers.
We are suspended. We'll come back and do committee business.
[Proceedings continue in camera]