I don't have stats, but I can report anecdotally to you that I think there is a real recognition that, given the labour situation and also an overall desire to increase productivity, there needs to be a move to more automation, digitization and robotics. This is an industry, though, where we're not going to see the equivalent of the self-driving car. There are segments in our industry that are very hands-on. Often we're looking at small improvements in how you might apply a technology to a piece of your production line, for example, or a transition from one production line to another. Incremental technology is probably more where you're going to see changes.
To be truthful, though, through the pandemic and coming out of the pandemic, I have committees within my organization, and I can't tell you the number of times CEOs can't make committee meetings because they're on the production line when staff have called in or when they've lost staff. The ability for most companies to be forward-thinking and forward-planning is very stunted right now, because folks are dealing with the challenges of varied supply chains. It can be the challenge of pallet shortages or sugar shortages. We see these different problems pop up every week or so.
I think we really need to step in and find ways to help the companies in order to facilitate their ability to adopt these technologies.