Evidence of meeting #149 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was line.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Cathy McLeod  Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, CPC
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Hélène Laurendeau  Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
David Yurdiga  Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, CPC
Randy Boissonnault  Edmonton Centre, Lib.
Wayne Long  Saint John—Rothesay, Lib.

9:10 p.m.

Edmonton Centre, Lib.

Randy Boissonnault

I will move that now.

9:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

All right. What you're moving now is—

9:10 p.m.

Edmonton Centre, Lib.

Randy Boissonnault

What I just read into the record. There's no paragraph (b).

9:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Can you do that? I don't think you can do that, because you already did the first part of it. I think all you can do now is either vote against it or subamend to remove paragraph (b). You can't deal with the part that you've already subamended.

9:10 p.m.

Edmonton Centre, Lib.

Randy Boissonnault

I think we're agreeing violently, Madam Chair, so however the clerk advises us to proceed, we will do so.

9:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

I just want to be clear, because that's what my job is here. Your subamendment is to remove paragraph (b) from amendment NDP-16.

9:15 p.m.

Edmonton Centre, Lib.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Now there's a new subamendment removing paragraph (b).

Monsieur Nantel.

9:15 p.m.

NDP

Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

Can I discuss this?

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

This subamendment? Yes.

9:15 p.m.

NDP

Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

The commission's report uses words that are more worse than these words. It talks about cultural genocide. I don't understand why we've suddenly become a little fussy and why don't want to go through with it. I think that it's very relevant to talk about the erosion and destruction of Indigenous culture. Of course, we'll all be going to bed in an hour and we'll all be quite happy.

I don't see why there's an objection to this. In reality, this all comes from a report where much more serious words are used. I can't understand this caution.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Mr. Anandasangaree.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON

Thank you, Monsieur Nantel.

In the TRC, however, there are a number of different calls to action, and this particular bill doesn't address all of that. It addresses only the languages component. The addition that you have really goes outside the scope in that respect. I think there are other ways and other avenues for us to be able to address that.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Okay. Seeing no further debate, all in favour of the subamendment?

(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we have NDP-16 as amended. All in favour?

(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Amendment LIB-12.6 cannot be moved.

NDP-17, I've been told, is inadmissible. You know the process when I say that it's inadmissible.

9:15 p.m.

NDP

Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

I appeal the decision.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Monsieur Nantel appeals my decision.

Shall the decision of the chair be sustained? All in favour?

(Ruling of the chair sustained)

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

It is sustained, so NDP-17 cannot move forward.

NDP-18 has been deemed inadmissible as well, so we'll move ahead. As NDP-18 is inadmissible, shall the preamble carry as amended?

9:15 p.m.

Edmonton Centre, Lib.

9:15 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

9:15 p.m.

An hon. member

On division.

9:15 p.m.

Edmonton Centre, Lib.

Randy Boissonnault

(Preamble as amended carried on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Shall the title carry?

9:15 p.m.

Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, CPC

Cathy McLeod

Madam Chair, can we speak to these?

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin

Which ones?

9:15 p.m.

Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, CPC

Cathy McLeod

Shall the title carry? Can we speak to any of the following motions?