Evidence of meeting #31 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was study.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Thomas Owen Ripley  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Amy Awad  Senior Director, Marketplace and Legislative Policy, Department of Canadian Heritage
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Aimée Belmore

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Is it up to the CRTC to determine that monetary amount?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

They're not there to determine a specific amount—

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

They're not going to determine a specific amount?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Again, even if an online creator might make a lot of money with it, if it's not used as a substitute, or you don't find it on Spotify, it has nothing to do.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Minister, I'm sorry. I'm going to let you clarify once again.

How are you going to determine...? Which revenue threshold are you going to determine whether it's commercial content?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Commercial content is more than just revenue. It's got—

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

You said it is one of the three criteria, so if all three have to be there—

June 6th, 2022 / 4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I have a point of order.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative John Nater

We have Mr. Bittle on a point of order.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I think, Mr. Chair, you discussed the “talking over the witnesses” thing, yet you let it go on now a few times. There's been a chronic interrupting of the minister after the question is asked. He should be able to answer his questions.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative John Nater

We will try to have the comments be about the same length as questions, and we will try to keep the microphones on one at a time for the sake of the interpretation.

Go ahead, Mrs. Thomas.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

I trust that the time was not taken off my clock.

Minister, you're very confusing to those who are watching. On one hand, you're saying revenue will be accounted for and taken into consideration along with two other criteria. On the other hand, you're saying, “No, no, revenue doesn't need to be considered.”

Can you please be clear? Is revenue going to be considered one of the criteria to determine whether or not content is covered by this bill?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I don't think I'm confusing, Mrs. Thomas.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

My question is simple, Minister.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I've been very clear.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

What is the revenue threshold?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

What is the revenue threshold that will have you support the bill?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

What is the revenue threshold?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

Would you support the bill in any consideration, or never?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

Minister, my question is toward you. What is the revenue threshold?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I told you. It's one of the criteria that—

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

I know it's one of the criteria, so what is that criterion? What's that number? What's that revenue threshold?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

You've asked the same question probably eight times—the same one you filibustered last week. It's not going to get you anywhere. I answered your question.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Rachael Thomas Conservative Lethbridge, AB

So you don't know the revenue threshold?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Pablo Rodriguez Liberal Honoré-Mercier, QC

I answered your question.