Canadian Heritage Committee on June 14th, 2022

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

I am told by the clerk that there is a hard stop for the interpreters to have a break.

[The Clerk, Ms. Aimée Belmore]

Madam Chair, just to be precise, that's a minimum of 15 minutes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Shall we suspend for 15 minutes, then?

Thank you. We are suspended.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Colleagues, we will be resuming clause-by-clause.

Here in my notes from the clerk with regard to conflicts, it says that if LIB-9 is adopted, then BQ-13 and CPC-18 cannot be moved due a line conflict.

Given that next up would have been BQ-13 and it cannot be moved, I shall move on to CPC-17.

Shall CPC-17 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall NDP-15.2 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

CPC-18 cannot be moved because we passed LIB-9. I shall go past CPC-18 and move on to NDP-15.3.

Shall NDP-15.3 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall BQ-14 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Shall LIB-9.1 carry?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall NDP-16 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We are now on NDP-17.

I've decided to flag to everyone that if NDP-17 is adopted, BQ-15 on page 113 and NDP-17.1 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Shall NDP-17 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We can now move to BQ-15.

If BQ-15 is adopted, NDP-17.1 and NDP-18, which is on page 115, cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

I would also like to inform everyone that if BQ-15 is adopted, NDP-17.1 becomes moot, as they are identical. If BQ-15 is defeated, so is NDP-17.1, for the same reason.

Shall BQ-15 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Shall NDP-17.1 carry?

[Philippe Méla]

Madam Chair, BQ-15 and NDP-17.1 are identical, so NDP-17.1 would be defeated as well.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

All right. We will not go to NDP-17.1.

What about NDP-18?

[Philippe Méla]

NDP-18 is good to go.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you.

We will not be voting on NDP-17.1. We'll be voting on NDP-18.

Does NDP-18 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

I shall go to NDP-19.

Again, I'd like to warn everybody that if NDP-19 is adopted then NDP-19.1 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Shall NDP-19 carry?

(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

NDP-19 does not carry; therefore, NDP-19.1 can be moved.

Does NDP-19.1 carry?

[Peter Julian, NDP, New Westminster—Burnaby, BC]

It's defeated on division.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Does anyone oppose that?

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

There seems to be consensus in the room.

(Amendment negatived on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Thank you.

On CPC-18.1—

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

It's carried on division.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

Is it carried on division? Is everyone in agreement with that, Mr. Nater? Are we sure about that?

[The Clerk, Ms. Aimée Belmore]

Madam Chair, I think you might want a recorded division.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

We'll have a recorded division on CPC-18.1.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7, yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

CPC-18.2 and CPC-18.3 were removed.

We are on CPC-18.4.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7, yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We are on CPC-18.5.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7, yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We are on CPC-19.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7, yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We are on CPC-19.1.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7, yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll now move to BQ-16, but before I call the vote, I would like to note that, if BQ-16 is adopted, LIB-10 on page 126 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Shall BQ-16 carry?

[Laila Goodridge, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB]

I will abstain. I believe there is something not quite right in the translation of this particular amendment. Perhaps we could get clarification.

[The Chair, Liberal, Hedy Fry]

If you're asking for a point of clarification, please ask it.

[Laila Goodridge, Conservative, Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB]

Thank you.

It's a point of clarification. I do not believe that the translation quite matches.

[Philippe Méla]

Thank you for the question.

It would be hard for me to determine if the translators have done a proper translation. I can have a look, but—