Evidence of meeting #38 for Canadian Heritage in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was players.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Aimée Belmore
Scott Smith  President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada
Tom Renney  Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada
Dave Andrews  Chair, Hockey Canada Foundation, Hockey Canada
Isabelle Mondou  Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage

June 20th, 2022 / 4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I call this meeting to order.

Good afternoon, everyone.

Welcome to meeting number 38 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

I would like to acknowledge that this meeting is taking place on the unceded traditional territory of the Algonquin Anishinaabe people.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the House on Thursday, June 2, 2022, and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, June 13, 2022, the committee is meeting on the study of Hockey Canada’s involvement in alleged sexual assaults committed in 2018.

Today’s meeting is taking place in a hybrid format. By now most of you know the rules. Pursuant to the House order of November 25, 2021, members who are attending in person in the room should be masked at all times.

As per the directive of the Board of Internal Economy on March 10, 2022, all those attending the meeting in person must wear a mask. For those remotely using the Zoom application, please remember to mute yourself when you are not speaking, and when I call your name you may unmute so that you can speak.

I would like to remind you, for those who are joining us remotely, that at the bottom of your screen there is a little round globe, which is an interpretation button. You can press that to hear it in the language of your choice. Those on the floor, you know the usual rule. Plug it in and you will be able to get interpretation.

I remind you that all comments should be addressed through the chair.

I need to ask the committee’s consent if they will accept Mr. Tom Renney, Mr. Scott Smith, and Mr. David Andrews of Hockey Canada being advised, or assisted, by counsel, Mr. Andrew Winton, when they appear in front of the committee. Do I have committee approval for this?

4 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

It is permissible on our side that he appear on the panel, but that he does not answer questions on behalf of the witnesses, and only the three witnesses are permitted to speak.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

That was already told to Mr. Winton, that he is there as counsel and adviser only, and that he's not to speak or answer questions.

Thank you very much for reminding us of that, John.

I think today the committee will begin on the study on Hockey Canada’s involvement in alleged sexual assaults committed in 2018.

Participants present are here for two hours, and they are as follows: Andrew Winton, legal counsel, and the witnesses Scott Smith, president and chief operating officer, Hockey Canada; Dave Andrews, chair, Hockey Canada Foundation; and Tom Renney, chief executive officer.

I shall begin. I wanted the witnesses to know that they each have five minutes to present at the committee. At the end of that time there will be a question and answer period.

Thank you.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

On a point of order, Madam Chair, I would like to request that the witnesses be sworn in.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Clerk, can we proceed to doing that, please?

4:05 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Aimée Belmore

Mr. Smith, do you swear that the evidence you shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

4:05 p.m.

Scott Smith President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada

I do.

4:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Renney, do you swear that the evidence you shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

4:05 p.m.

Tom Renney Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada

I do.

4:05 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Andrews, do you swear that the evidence you shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

4:05 p.m.

Dave Andrews Chair, Hockey Canada Foundation, Hockey Canada

I do.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you very much, Clerk. Now we shall begin with the witnesses.

First up will be Mr. Renney, for five minutes, please.

4:05 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada

Tom Renney

Thank you, Madam Chair and members of the committee, for inviting Hockey Canada to appear today.

My name is Tom Renney, and I am Hockey Canada's chief executive officer. I'm joined today by Scott Smith, Hockey Canada's president and chief operating officer, and David Andrews, chair of the board of directors of the Hockey Canada Foundation.

Our former colleague, Glen McCurdie, who retired as senior vice-president of insurance and risk management in December, is not here today due to the recent passing of his father. We appreciate the committee's compassion in not compelling his attendance today.

We welcome the opportunity to respond to the members' questions regarding the allegations involving members of the 2017-18 national junior hockey team and the recent settlement Hockey Canada reached with the plaintiff in that matter. Before we do that, I want to make one thing clear: Hockey Canada is on a journey to change the culture of our sport and to make it safer and more inclusive. We acknowledge that issues of maltreatment, including bullying, harassment, racism, homophobia and sexual abuse, exist in hockey as they do in other sports and in our society. We have been working on this since well before the London incident, but we recognize that as leaders we need to do more, and we are committed to doing just that.

Before we get to your questions, I would like to provide some context for the discussion. Given that some of the public commentary on this very serious issue has been speculative, I would like to ensure that we are starting with a common set of facts. Hockey Canada is aware of reports suggesting that we failed to investigate this incident, attempted to cover it up and generally swept this matter under the rug. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Hockey Canada learned of this incident the day after it was alleged to have taken place. We immediately initiated a process to investigate, beginning by contacting police. We commissioned an independent investigation and appointed an independent adjudication panel of judges to review the findings of that investigation. We also notified Sport Canada, as is our obligation as a federally funded national sport organization.

Our organization, leadership and staff have co-operated fully with law enforcement and the investigator throughout their processes, providing access to all information requested. We cannot speak to the investigation undertaken by the London police. For our part, the independent investigation we commissioned could not ultimately be completed, because the young woman chose not to speak to the investigator. That was her right, and we respected her wishes, just as we continue to respect her clear and repeated wishes not to identify her or the players involved. While we understand the public's frustration that the players involved have never been identified or disciplined, the young woman has agency in this matter, and we encourage everyone to give appropriate consideration and deference to her fundamental desire for privacy above all else.

With regard to the legal action that was filed in April of this year, we settled the claim quickly because we felt a moral obligation to respond to the alleged behaviour that occurred at one of our events by players who attended at our invitation. While we don't know exactly what occurred that night or the identities of those involved, we recognize that the conduct was unacceptable and incompatible with Hockey Canada's values and expectations, and that it clearly caused harm. We felt that the right response to the woman's legal request was one that did not require her to participate in a prolonged court proceeding. The settlement enables her to seek whatever support she might require as she tries to move past this incident.

Although the investigation could not come to a conclusion regarding the role that any player may have played in the incident, the investigator provided advice on areas for improvement, which we have been implementing and will continue to pursue in the line of our work to improve the culture of our sport. This work includes enhancing our code of conduct and improving our education programs. We are happy to discuss these efforts in more detail today.

As I said at the outset, pushing this behavioural change is a priority for our organization.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have one minute.

4:10 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada

Tom Renney

Our players, coaches, volunteers, and other stakeholders can expect to be hearing more about our actions in this area. As part of doing that, we are eager to work with many stakeholders to help ensure we meet expectations that Canadians have for Canada's game. Earlier this year we appointed our first-ever Hockey Canada executive focused exclusively on safe sport. We also welcomed the appointment this spring of Canada's first sport integrity commissioner and the measures announced by the Minister of Sport last week regarding the accountability of Sport Canada organizations.

Our message to anyone who feels they are a victim of maltreatment by someone affiliated with Hockey Canada is that we want to hear from you. We are committed to ensuring that we are a safe space for raising your concerns—

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

You have 16 seconds, Mr. Renney. If you want to finish your sentence, go ahead.

4:10 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada

Tom Renney

Yes, Madam Chair.

Finally, on the matter of the source of funding for the settlement in question here, we will be co-operating fully with the minister's financial audit, but I can assure the committee that no government funds were used in this settlement.

I would like to close my remarks—

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you, Mr. Renney.

I'll go to Scott Smith, president and chief operating officer.

Mr. Smith, you have five minutes. Go ahead, please.

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Operating Officer, Hockey Canada

Scott Smith

Madam Chair, we deferred the opening statement to Mr. Renney, so Mr. Andrews and I have no opening statement.

Thank you.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Thank you very much. I will now move to the question-and-answer segment.

The first segment is a six-minute round for each political party, and the six minutes include the question and the answer. Please be mindful of that when you're asking your questions and responding. Thank you.

For the Conservative Party, we have John Nater.

John, please go ahead for six minutes.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to the witnesses for joining us today.

My questions will be relatively brief, and I hope I can have relatively brief answers as well on this matter.

I'm going to use the term “alleged assault”, because these allegations haven't been proven in court. We do respect the privacy of the complainant or the individual in question, and none of our questions will be directed in a way that would reveal any identifiable information about the individual in question, as I think is appropriate in this context.

I'd like to know, first of all, when exactly Hockey Canada became aware of the alleged incident that occurred in London on June 19.

4:15 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada

Tom Renney

Thank you, Madam Chair.

We became aware of the alleged incident the morning of June 19.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

How did you become aware of that allegation?

4:15 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Hockey Canada

Tom Renney

There was a call to our vice-president of human resources by, I believe, the individual's step-father.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

At what point did you contact the London Police Service?