Evidence of meeting #20 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funds.
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I'd like to note there's no expectation that I would see a tactical police plan in my job.
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
That's number one. That started to be prepared on or about February 12. It was not completed until February 17.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
However, it was signed by all parties on February 12.
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
Yes. However, it was not a complete plan with resources—
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
How can you testify that it wasn't the complete plan if you saw it for the first time two weeks ago?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
It was not a complete plan with resources or any understanding of how it would be used. The complete plan was ready on February 17.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
I see.
You testified that, on February 13, you gave the cabinet
“a full picture of the factual situation”.
December 1st, 2022 / 8:20 p.m.
Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
If you were unaware of the existence of a plan prepared by the police services, how can you say that you gave
“a full picture of the factual situation”?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I provided the information I was given by all the agencies involved. They were all at the table when I provided that information. That plan was not complete.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Did you notice that they didn't talk about you in that plan?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I'm not part of the policing infrastructure.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
All right.
Did you notice that they discussed none of your organizations in the plan, or the Minister of Public Safety or the Prime Minister of Canada either?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
We're not...because it's a policing tactical plan. We're not part of the policing—
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Is it possible that the plan was tactical but there was no need for you?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I'm not sure what your question is.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
It's a simple question: don't you think that the reason they didn't refer to you in the plan was that they didn't need you?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I'm not a police officer. I don't purport to be a police officer.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
What would you say if I told you it was the plan that was implemented after February 14?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
The plan that was enforced on February 17 included elements of the new authorities under the Emergencies Act.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
I see.
Which elements of the plan were enforced after February 14?
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I can't answer that question for you. That's for the police chief.
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Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
I know why you can't answer; it's because you didn't know.
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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
I did not know—