Evidence of meeting #20 for Declaration of Emergency in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funds.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Chair  Hon. Gwen Boniface (Senator, Ontario, ISG)
Jody Thomas  National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office
Marie-Hélène Chayer  Executive Director, Integrated Terrorism Assessment Centre
Martin Green  Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Intelligence Assessment, Privy Council Office
Claude Carignan  Senator, Quebec (Mille Isles), C
Peter Harder  Senator, Ontario, PSG
Dennis Glen Patterson  Senator, Nunavut, CSG
Mike MacDonald  Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Security and Intelligence, Privy Council Office
Jacob Wells  Co-Founder, GiveSendGo

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

He said, “The obligation of Parliament at this point is to do everything it can to try to heal the divisions that have been created.” Do you agree?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

I'm not a parliamentarian.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Would you agree with me that one of the most important roles of a prime minister is to unite Canadians and not divide them by engaging in name-calling?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

The Prime Minister should protect Canadians.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Do you agree?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

I agree with protecting Canadians.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Do you agree that the Prime Minister should not be name-calling?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

I'm not going to comment on that.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Okay.

You are aware that at the inquiry, the Prime Minister stated that he did not call people who were unvaccinated names. Are you aware of that statement?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

Yes. I heard that statement.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Would you agree with me that the Prime Minister stated on Quebec television in September 2021 that there are people who are fiercely opposed to vaccination, who do not believe in science and who are misogynistic and often are racist; that there are not many of them, but they take up a lot of space; and that he asked, as a leader and as a country, do we tolerate these people or do we say, “come on”?

He repeated those same talking points during the unnecessary 2021 federal election. Do you agree that he made those statements?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

I did not personally hear those statements. I apologize.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Would you agree with me that the Prime Minister either has a significant problem with his memory or he deliberately and intentionally misled the inquiry?

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

Madam Chair, I don't think that this is fair questioning.

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The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface

Your time is up.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

She can answer the question. It's not up to her, this witness—

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

I have point of order, Madam Chair. We do not need commentary on the witness's testimony—

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

—to question the validity and the relevancy.

Do I still have—

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Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

The witness's testimony stands.

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The Joint Chair Hon. Gwen Boniface

Can I give her an opportunity to answer?

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Thank you.

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National Security and Intelligence Advisor, Privy Council Office

Jody Thomas

I'm not sure what the question was.

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Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I can repeat the question, Madam Chair.

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Liberal

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

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