Evidence of meeting #19 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mike Mercredi  Member, Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation
Renée Caron  Executive Director, Legislative Governance, Department of the Environment
Sarah Cosgrove  Manager, Legislative Advice Section, Department of the Environment
Darlene Pearson  Legislation and Policy, Parks Canada Agency
Lucie Bourbonnière  Senior Counsel, Parks Canada, Legal Services, Department of Justice
Wayne Cole  Procedural Clerk
Gillian Grant  Legal Counsel, Transport Canada, Department of Justice
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Normand Radford

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Amendments NDP-15, NDP-16, and NDP-16.1.

11:25 a.m.

Procedural Clerk

Wayne Cole

They were defeated.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Yes.

(Clauses 86 to 92 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 93)

This brings us to G-9, right?

11:25 a.m.

Procedural Clerk

Wayne Cole

Amendment BQ-2 was adopted.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

So we are at amendment G-9 on page 35.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

Amendment G-9 is a duplicate, I believe, of amendment G-6. So for the same reasons that I advanced in relation to G-6, I move G-9. It is a duplicate, in another of the acts, which Bill C-16 amends.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Is there any discussion on amendment G-9?

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

It's virtually a copy.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(On clause 93)

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

We're on amendment G-10.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

I move amendment G-10 as it appears before us. This is to correct a drafting error in clause 93, on page 116 of the act, line 30.

There is a misdescription in proposed section 33. The “3(e); or” in line 30 should in fact read “3(f); or”.

11:30 a.m.

NDP

Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Is that CEPA?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

This would be, first of all, starting on page 116, clause 93 of Bill C-16.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

This is the International River Improvements Act, is that right?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

I think so...or CEPA, actually.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

CEPA?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

Sorry, I'm not sure.

11:30 a.m.

Manager, Legislative Advice Section, Department of the Environment

Sarah Cosgrove

It's the International River Improvements Act, yes.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

Thank you.

In line 30 on page 116, proposed paragraph 33(1)(b) refers to “regulations made under paragraph 3(e)”. This is a drafting error. It should refer to “regulations made under paragraph 3(f)”.

It's very technical. It's simply a drafting error. I wish to move this amendment to replace the “(e)” with an “(f)”.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Unless anyone has an issue with the alphabet, I imagine we're all in agreement with amendment G-10.

(Amendment agreed to)

That brings us to amendment G-11. Is that right?

11:30 a.m.

Procedural Clerk

Wayne Cole

Yes, it's amendment G-11, page 40.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Mr. Woodworth.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

I will move amendment G-11 as it appears before us.

The amendment is very similar to what we have seen previously in dealing with the suite of powers that we wish to give to courts in dealing with environmental offences uniformly. However, in relation to the International Rivers Improvement Act, some were inadvertently omitted from clause 93 when the original drafting was done.

Those three now appear before you, in amendment G-11. I think what's a little new, and what hasn't been discussed in the previous similar amendments, is new proposed paragraph 45(1)(p), which simply refers to research.

I think the friendly amendment that's been proposed by Monsieur Bigras in relation to other similar amendments should also apply to amendment G-11 in new proposed paragraph 45(1)(q), to add the word “including” after the words “educational institution”.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Francis Scarpaleggia

Is there a need for discussion on G-11?

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Before you put this to a vote, make sure we capture this.

Was Mr. Woodworth suggesting there be a friendly amendment for proposed paragraph 45(1)(o)?

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Stephen Woodworth Conservative Kitchener Centre, ON

No. I spoke earlier with Monsieur Bigras, and I think his concern is related to educational institutions, so that's in (q).