Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you very much to both of you for being here today with very interesting presentations.
I'd like to start, if I might, with the business case you mentioned, Mr. Morrice, and that you emphasized, which I appreciated. It brought me back in time because.... I like the fact you pointed out there. You both pointed out there's a business case for being more environmentally friendly and for taking these items into consideration when a company is doing its business plan and trying to increase its profits.
In fact, when I started working with my father in his small company back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, I remember very clearly he refused to buy preprinted notepads with the nice carbon paper and the pink and the yellow sheets underneath. He refused because he said there was nothing wrong with taking a piece of paper where the back side isn't used, and is blank, and cutting that into fours. That was one of my jobs when I was 12, to go through the garbage and make sure there was no unused paper.
That was, of course, before the days of recycling where you would get your paper, your cartons, your glass, and your plastic all picked up. I think older generations often do these things much more naturally than younger people. We've become accustomed to the services being available.
I guess my question is about the level of sophistication. When you go into an office like Ernst and Young, you find they don't have heating problems. They're not losing heat or whatever. What kinds of things are they doing that businesses could do, big or small, to reduce their carbon footprint?