Do you want to have a discussion?
Mr. Sopuck, and then Linda.
Evidence of meeting #112 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agency.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Conservative
Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB
The last time I looked, Canada was a sovereign nation and we decide what our obligations are to our own citizens and our own environment regarding the environment, climate change, and biodiversity.
As an aside, I've been on the environment and fisheries committees ever since I became an MP and I've yet to hear anybody come up with a coherent, quantitative definition of biodiversity, no matter how often the word is thrown around.
Green
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
I like the redrafting, particularly because it is saying obligations and commitments in respect of environment, climate change, and biodiversity, because there are obligations and commitments to all of those. Sometimes it's a regional agreement. Sometimes it's a commitment like in the NAFTA side agreement.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
No, I'm not changing it. Before it just said “environmental obligations” and then “commitments on climate change”. It should say “obligations and commitments” to both, to all of those. That's what she did.
Liberal
Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON
We agree with the spirit of where Ms. May is going with this, but we actually have our own amendments, LIB-106, and LIB-111, that are relevant motions. We'll be voting on those.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Deb Schulte
Shall amendment PV-27 carry?
We'll have a recorded vote.
(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings)
We are moving on to amendment LIB-17.
Mr. Fisher.
Liberal
Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
On amendment LIB-17, we are going to go to line 30 on page 20, that Bill C-69, in clause 1, be amended by replacing line 30 on page 20 with the following:
a jurisdiction — or an Indigenous governing body not referred to in paragraph (f) or (g) of the definition jurisdiction in section 2 — that is in respect of a region related to
We heard about the importance of considering indigenous knowledge on impacts, and this amendment would ensure that consideration of this knowledge in assessments—oh, sorry, I'm on the wrong one.
Indigenous knowledge can come from a variety of indigenous organizations, not just the ones that were listed.
Conservative
Robert Sopuck Conservative Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB
I would like a recorded vote.
(Amendment agreed to: yeas 5; nays 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
Amendment LIB-18 is that Bill C-69, in clause 1, be amended by replacing line 40 on page 20 with the following:
paragraphs (1)(a) to (f), (h) to (l) and (s) and (t) is determined
As I was saying before, the amendment would ensure that consideration of this knowledge in assessments cannot be constrained or narrowly scoped.
NDP
Liberal
Conservative
Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC
Is traditional knowledge what you're taking out?
Mr. Fisher, I'm trying to get clarity.
Liberal
Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS
It's taking out the “traditional” and putting in “indigenous”.
Conservative