Environment Committee on May 10th, 2018

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Now we're going on to amendment CPC-5. If adopted, CPC-5.1 can't be moved because of a line conflict.

[Robert Sopuck, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

I would like to withdraw CPC-5 and keep CPC-5.1.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We're on CPC-5.1.

[Robert Sopuck, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

Again, it's similar to the other one regarding the nuclear mines. Basically this bill treats uranium mines and mills carefully, but they're really just like regular mines. There's no justification for such different treatment, as the complexity and impacts of uranium mines and mills are not in a different category than other mines and mills, and co-operative approaches are just as valuable.

We're recommending that it read:

(a) the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, except in relation to a uranium or thorium mine or mill;

Again, uranium and thorium mines are regulated provincially. They're just like all other mines, whether a nickel mine, or so on. There's no reason for this type of mining to be singled out, so we recommend this amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Ms. Duncan.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

I'm looking at line 37. I don't see how you can add that in there, because then what happens to “(b) the Canadian Energy Regulator Act”? It's not related to a nuclear facility.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

You're looking at line 37—

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

I'm looking at line 37. He wants to specifically add in that a nuclear facility be regulated. Why would a nuclear facility be regulated by the Canadian energy regulator?

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Let's just make sure that I'm following you. You said line 37, which reads “includes physical activities that are regulated under any of the following Acts”.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Right, and he's adding in—

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Under (a), he's excluding. He's doing an exclusion.

[Robert Sopuck, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

Yes.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

No, he's not. He is replacing that line, which simply talks about physical activities—

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

No, you're on the wrong line. Look at (a).

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

I'm looking at (a).

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Which one are you looking at?

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

I'm looking at (a); you're talking about (b), and I'm talking about (a).

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Hold on—what amendment are you on?

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

CPC-5—

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

That's the problem. That was withdrawn.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Oh, sorry. So that has been withdrawn, okay. That's why I keep saying CPC-5.

Very good. No wonder it didn't make any sense.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Mr. Sopuck, you need to have your own amendment qualified by the departments?

[Robert Sopuck, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

I would like to have the officials make a comment on this amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

But it's your amendment.

[Robert Sopuck, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

I know.