Environment Committee on May 10th, 2018

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Are you breaking this out?

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Yes, I am.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Shall the amendment carry?

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

I'd like a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We're just doing (a) at the moment.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we are on (b).

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Then why is there a panel?

The second one replaces line 3 on page 29. In addition to the power, now of only the agency, not the panel, to collect information, it requires also that information be disclosed.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Shall part (b) of the amendment carry?

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We're going on to (c).

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

The third one is line 5 in the same provision. It would say, “are necessary in the opinion of the Agency or the review panel, are necessary for the impact assessment by the review panel”. That seems to only make sense to me.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Shall the amendment NDP-37(c) carry?

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

I would like a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We're moving on to NDP-38.

Ms. Duncan.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Thank you.

This amendment is brought forward at the request of the Mikisew Cree, based on their experience in appearing before tribunals. Essentially what they're asking for is that the clock be stopped while the proponent meets an agency's or review panel's request for information. That only makes sense.

Their experience has been that, in the past, there may be a request for information that's not provided in a timely fashion, so neither the intervenors in the proceeding nor the panel have the opportunity to review that information in a timely way.

I'm doing them one by one.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Okay. I think that's clear, proposed new subsection 38.1(1).

On NDP-38, shall the amendment carry?

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

I would like a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We will have a recorded vote.

Ms. Duncan.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

I'm wondering if my second proposed change makes sense if the first is ruled out.

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

I didn't think you should have split it, but you did.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

It doesn't matter. It's nonsensical. We simply wanted it. There's—

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

We're waiting for your vote.

[Linda Duncan, NDP, Edmonton Strathcona, AB]

Oh, I'm sorry.

(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

On PV-43, we have Ms. May.

I'm sorry. Mr. Bossio.

[Mike Bossio, Liberal, Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON]

[Technical difficulty—Editor] LIB-26?

[The Chair, Liberal, Deb Schulte]

Wait a minute. LIB-26 isn't up yet. We are at PV-43. We're on page 29.