Information & Ethics Committee on Feb. 14th, 2008

[Stevie Cameron]

Actually, this is in one of the books I'm tabling. I was annotating it this morning and over the last day to try to remember everything, and I didn't get through it. The $500,000 was moved by Mr. Schreiber into the Britan account. I think you know that.

When Mr. Doucet and Mr. Schreiber, I think they've agreed, set up meetings for Mr. Schreiber to meet Mr. Mulroney, we found $100,000 withdrawn on one occasion—I guess that was the Mirabel meeting—and the other $100,000 was withdrawn. I don't remember whether they were done with the $50,000 and the $50,000 to add up to the third $100,000 or how they fit in sequence. But that's what we found.

[Charles Hubbard, Liberal, Miramichi, NB]

The Harrington Lake meeting that Mr. Schreiber said was arranged by Fred Doucet, do you have any information on that meeting? Could you give us any evidence?

Mr. Doucet apparently denies that arrangement.

[Stevie Cameron]

As to what Harvey and I had at the time, we didn't have Mr. Mulroney's confirmation that these meetings took place. What we had to say at that time, in 2001, was that the diary entries showed Mr. Doucet on this date, then they showed the withdrawal of the money--you know, these were Mr. Schreiber's diary entries--and then they matched the entries chronologically with these meetings that were set up.

So we assumed that the Britan account had been set up with $500,000, and on these occasions, when it looked as if Mr. Doucet was setting up meetings with Mr. Mulroney, that the money was transferred. But in 2001 we had not gotten then the confirmation from Mr. Schreiber, nor from Mr. Mulroney, that that's how it happened.

[The Chair, Liberal, Paul Szabo]

Thank you.

Mr. Hiebert, please.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Ms. Cameron, sprechen sie Deutsch?

[Stevie Cameron]

Nein.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Do you read German?

[Stevie Cameron]

It's interesting; I once did speak German and I once did read German, because I went to school in Zurich when I was young and I lived in Zurich. But what I did in terms of dealing with all the German documents was to use a translator. It was amazing; after a while I found I could sort my way through these documents.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

So you had somebody helping you find these German documents?

[Stevie Cameron]

We had somebody help us translate these German documents.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

I just find it fascinating that you met with the RCMP for four to six hours, and all you talked about were newspaper clippings.

[Stevie Cameron]

Well, Mr. Hiebert, it's not so interesting and fascinating as you think. That was in 1995, and none of us really knew anything about this case. It wasn't until I met Mr. Pelossi...who was very helpful. I went to see him, I went to see people in Germany.

This was long after I had those very brief meetings with the RCMP.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Okay.

You told us that you started to meet with the RCMP, specifically with Mr. Fiegenwald, in, I think you said, January of 1995.

[Stevie Cameron]

That's right.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

We also know that Mr. Fiegenwald was the author of several drafts of the letter of request sent by justice department lawyer Kimberly Prost to the Swiss authorities. Did you ever see a copy of that letter before it was sent?

[Stevie Cameron]

I don't think I've seen it since it was sent. I don't think I've ever looked at it.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Did Mr. Fiegenwald ever share it with you?

[Stevie Cameron]

Absolutely not.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Did any information that you provided him end up in that letter?

[Stevie Cameron]

No, sir.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Okay.

Do you have any idea who was involved other than Mr. Fiegenwald in the drafting of that letter?

[Stevie Cameron]

I thought that Ms. Prost drafted the letter, but I don't know anything about it.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Do you have any idea who leaked the letter?

[Stevie Cameron]

I think I've written about that, Mr. Hiebert.

[Russ Hiebert, Conservative, South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC]

Perhaps you could let me know. I haven't read your books.