Evidence of meeting #17 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
You're not a stenographer. So I suppose you had to summarize. Did you show Mr. Martin those notes at the end of the interview?
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As an Individual
No, I normally do not do that. I think the only person I ever did that with was David Angus.
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
Do the notes that you sent us contain only your notes, or do they also contain those of Mr. Macdonell?
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As an Individual
That's right, you don't have his notes. They are in storage in Montreal and we couldn't get them quickly enough. He did do the summary that you have; it's the first short summary of all the various points that Mr. Martin made, but the full transcripts are what you have now.
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
Ms. Cameron, you investigated this affair for years. You met with tens of individuals on the subject. Did you meet anyone who corroborated the remarks of Mr. Mulroney, who contends that he lobbied for Bear Head?
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As an Individual
Mr. Mulroney's comments that there was lobbying for Bear Head?
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As an Individual
We met many people who said there was lobbying for Bear Head, yes.
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
Someone was talking to me at the same time. What did you say?
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As an Individual
I think I need to ask you to repeat, Mr. Ménard. Are you asking me if--
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
Did you meet one single person who corroborated Mr. Mulroney's claim that he lobbied for Bear Head?
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Bloc
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
Mr. Pelossi acknowledged that IAL, that Airbus obviously couldn't officially pay kickbacks to politicians or other persons. So it paid a commission to IAL. Mr. Schreiber took the money from IAL and distributed it to the individuals concerned: one-half in Germany and the other in Canada. Ultimately, Mr. Schreiber gave out the kickbacks, instead of Airbus, to secure the Canadian contracts.
Do you agree with Mr. Pelossi on that?
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Bloc
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Bloc
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Liberal
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Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Ms. Cameron, I thought I heard you say earlier, responding to a question from Carole Lavallée, something to the effect that no sitting politicians got any of the money from Airbus. Is that correct? Did you make that statement?
