Evidence of meeting #14 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was togneri.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sébastien Togneri  Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual
Alysia Davies  Committee Researcher

11:10 a.m.

Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

Yes, I saw him from time to time.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

When would you see him?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

I saw him at meetings.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

Did those meetings focus on certain access to information requests?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

No. We would meet once a week regarding access to information requests.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

What was the purpose of those meetings?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

They were to decide.... Since the Department of Public Works and Government Services had a number of access to information requests, we would discuss those the department wanted to see.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

Those that the minister's office wanted to see?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

Yes, as well as the deputy minister's office.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

The deputy minister's office and the minister's office wanted to see certain access to information requests, and the access to information coordinator was the person appointed by the minister to administer the act in question in that department.

11:15 a.m.

Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

Is that a question?

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

I am coming to my question. When you would meet, how would you determine when to intervene or examine access to information requests more closely? Did it depend on the identity of the requester or the nature of the request?

11:15 a.m.

Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

A bit of both. We had a list of files and.... Yes. So there were.... There are files that are not contentious....

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

No, I am talking about the ones that are contentious.

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

Yes, so we....

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

I will give you an example: the 132-page document you intercepted was censored on 30 pages. Who censored it?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

I have no idea.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

You intercepted the document; who did you give it to?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

Forgive me, but you will have to be more specific. I do not understand the question.

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

You are here today because you recalled a document to keep it from being released in its original form. Are you aware of that?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

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Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

You sent an email requesting that the document be retrieved from the mail.

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

I did not block.... I did not censor any document.

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Bloc

Carole Freeman Bloc Châteauguay—Saint-Constant, QC

You asked that the document be intercepted. Who was the document given to?

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Former Parliamentary Affairs Director, Department of Public Works and Government Services, As an Individual

Sébastien Togneri

I do not understand: who was it given to....