Finance Committee on May 29th, 2023

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

Yes, but the question was:

“Shall we carry clause...”, and then you have to add—

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

That's correct, but if we say, “Negatived on division”, that means it doesn't carry.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

No.

MP Kmiec, are you accepting on division?

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

No. What I said was, “Negatived on division.”

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

You cannot do that.

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

That's done in other committees. Another House committee did it today.

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

The question is different. It's “shall it be carried?”, with a question mark. Then it's “with dissidence”.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The answer to the question is, “No, it shall not carry: It shall be rejected on division.”

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

Then you've changed the chair's question.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

No, you're not changing the question. You're answering the question. “On division” means you're agreeing to proceed on the basis of a—

[An hon. member]

This is a waste of time.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Yes.

Clerk, record the vote.

(Clause 100 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

This is a good time, members, to suspend for about 15 minutes.

Thanks.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We're back. Everybody got a good stretch and some air.

Members, shall clause 101 carry?

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Clause 101 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Shall clause 102 carry?

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

I request a recorded vote, Mr. Chair.

[Gabriel Ste-Marie, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Ste-Marie, you have a point of order.

[Gabriel Ste-Marie, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

Would you please confirm for me that clause 100 was carried before the break.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

On a point of order, we didn't hear the point of order, because there was no translation.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Ste-Marie, we did not get the translation.

I did hear about the headset. MP Ste-Marie's headset was approved and is approved by the House, but we do need the translation.

MP Ste-Marie, can we try again and see if we can get translation?

[Gabriel Ste-Marie, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

Can you confirm for me that the interpretation is working?

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Interpretation is now working, MP Ste-Marie.

[Gabriel Ste-Marie, Bloc, Joliette, QC]

All right.

I wanted to make sure that clause 100 had carried before the break.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It had, MP Ste-Marie.