Finance Committee on May 29th, 2023

[A voice]

On division.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

You can't do it on a point of order anyway.

MP Genuis, please.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

No, I had a point of order, and then you gave me the floor after that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

A little order, MP Genuis. I know you're new to this committee. I know you're subbing here. I know you want to make a show for the members.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The finance committee does not have standing orders separate from other committees.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, you cannot move a motion on a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm well aware of that. I didn't move a motion on a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, we are moving on.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I sought the floor afterwards. I raised a point of order. You affirmed my point of order, and then I sought the floor after that. I didn't say point of order—the record will show.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, listen. We're moving on.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, I sought the floor. Mr. Chair, I have the floor.

(Clauses 46 to 48 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Shall clause 49 carry?

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

I request a recorded vote.

[Leah Gazan, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

Mr. Chair, my touchpad is sticking a little bit. Is it possible for me to vote with a thumbs-up just so that I don't hold the committee back? I just feel like I'm wasting people's time.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Gazan, you can vote with a thumbs-up, or thumbs-down. Yes.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You can't do a point of order in the middle of a vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It was not a point of order. It was a clarification about how to vote...if she was able to vote—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

She already voted.

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

This is debate, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Yes.

(Clause 49 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Shall clause 50 carry?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It might be news to you, but the rules are the rules.

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

I request a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We'll do recorded votes.

(Clauses 50 to 59 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, when a member votes by thumb, is that recorded in the same way as it would be for other votes?