Finance Committee on May 29th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It is recorded, yes.

Shall clause 60 carry?

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

On division.

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

I request a recorded vote.

(Clause 60 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Shall clause 61 carry?

[Tom Kmiec, Conservative, Calgary Shepard, AB]

I request a recorded vote.

(Clause 61 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair. Imagine how quickly this would go if we had had the 10 hours of testimony that you promised [Inaudible—Editor] agreed to.

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

This is debate.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Shall clause 62 carry?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It was in the original motion—

[Marty Morantz, Conservative, Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB]

I'd like a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

On division.

[Marty Morantz, Conservative, Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB]

Mr. Chair, I just asked for a recorded vote.

(Clause 62 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clauses 63 to 70 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(On clause 71)

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Members, we're at clause 71, and amendment CPC-0.1.

The chair's ruling on this is that Bill C-47 amends several acts, including the Income Tax Act, to add a mechanism of transmission of information between officials for the purpose of the administration enforcement of the Canadian dental plan. The amendment seeks to add a mechanism of transmission of any confidential information related to an individual between that individual and an official at his or her request by which the official could not withhold any confidential information related to the person.

As House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition, states on page 770, “An amendment to a bill that was referred to a committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.”.

In the opinion of the Chair, this addition is a new concept that is beyond the scope of the bill as adopted by the House at second reading; therefore, I rule the amendment inadmissible.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, I would like to respectfully challenge—

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

Debate....

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It's not debate.

[Kelly McCauley, Conservative, Edmonton West, AB]

Mr. Chair, could I have a moment, please?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Learn the rules, Ms. Dzerowicz.

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

It's debate.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

There's no debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You're right; there's no debate.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Stop the crosstalk, members. Please, everybody, there's no debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

That's correct.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

That is the chair's ruling.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The chair's ruling is now being challenged.