Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Ariane Gagné-Frégeau  Legislative Clerk
Miriam Burke  Legislative Clerk
Jean-François Lafleur  Legislative Clerk

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It is recorded, yes.

Shall clause 60 carry?

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

On division.

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Conservative

Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB

I request a recorded vote.

(Clause 60 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Shall clause 61 carry?

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Conservative

Tom Kmiec Conservative Calgary Shepard, AB

I request a recorded vote.

(Clause 61 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I have a point of order, Chair. Imagine how quickly this would go if we had had the 10 hours of testimony that you promised [Inaudible—Editor] agreed to.

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

This is debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Shall clause 62 carry?

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

It was in the original motion—

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Conservative

Marty Morantz Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

I'd like a recorded vote.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

On division.

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Conservative

Marty Morantz Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia—Headingley, MB

Mr. Chair, I just asked for a recorded vote.

(Clause 62 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(Clauses 63 to 70 inclusive agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(On clause 71)

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Members, we're at clause 71, and amendment CPC-0.1.

The chair's ruling on this is that Bill C-47 amends several acts, including the Income Tax Act, to add a mechanism of transmission of information between officials for the purpose of the administration enforcement of the Canadian dental plan. The amendment seeks to add a mechanism of transmission of any confidential information related to an individual between that individual and an official at his or her request by which the official could not withhold any confidential information related to the person.

As House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition, states on page 770, “An amendment to a bill that was referred to a committee after second reading is out of order if it is beyond the scope and principle of the bill.”.

In the opinion of the Chair, this addition is a new concept that is beyond the scope of the bill as adopted by the House at second reading; therefore, I rule the amendment inadmissible.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I would like to respectfully challenge—

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Debate....

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

It's not debate.

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Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Chair, could I have a moment, please?

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Learn the rules, Ms. Dzerowicz.

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

It's debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

There's no debate.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

You're right; there's no debate.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Stop the crosstalk, members. Please, everybody, there's no debate.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

That's correct.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That is the chair's ruling.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

The chair's ruling is now being challenged.