Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Ariane Gagné-Frégeau  Legislative Clerk
Miriam Burke  Legislative Clerk
Jean-François Lafleur  Legislative Clerk

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We're going to suspend.

We're back.

I've made my ruling. The only way to change that would be to challenge my ruling.

9:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Okay, Mr. Chair. My view is that subamendments should be allowed. I'll challenge the ruling that they're not, provided they were given in writing in advance.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

They are not, because, as MP Blaikie said, even within a point of order, you cannot bring forward an amendment or a subamendment. That is not allowed.

It is also captured within the motion, is that right, Madam Clerk?

It is not allowed.

9:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I believe it is allowed. I provided it in writing in advance and the motion doesn't reference subamendments—

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I've spoken to the legislative clerk and the clerk.

9:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

—but I've also challenged the chair, so if you'd like to discuss it further, I'm happy to discuss it further.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

There is no discussion.

9:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I said I'd challenge it, then you had further comment.

I'm happy to discuss it, but I think the challenge is on the floor. Let's vote on it.

9:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Okay, there's a challenge of the chair. Let's take the vote.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are moving on. We are at clause—

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

May 29th, 2023 / 9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

There's a point of order.

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Could we have unanimous consent to discuss moving subamendments?

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It's a no.

Shall BQ-1 carry?

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Mr. Chair, I'm sorry. Could you repeat that?

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

On clause 118, shall BQ-1 carry?

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

We'll have a recorded division on that.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

BQ-2 can only be moved if BQ-1 was defeated, as they address the same issue. Therefore, we can go on to BQ-2. We are at—

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I have another subamendment I would like to move on this one.

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are at —

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Chair, I'd like to move a subamendment on this one.

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are at, right now....

Members, shall BQ-2 carry?

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

9:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Go ahead on a point of order.

9:20 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I submitted a subamendment in writing—