Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Ariane Gagné-Frégeau  Legislative Clerk
Miriam Burke  Legislative Clerk
Jean-François Lafleur  Legislative Clerk

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We have ruled—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

—in advance, and—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We have ruled—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

—I would like to be able to—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

There has been a ruling, MP Genuis.

We are at—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

This is a different amendment. I think members were looking for further context. I provided that in writing, in advance, to the clerk. It can be distributed. I understand it hasn't been circulated, but it can be circulated, or simply read—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Genuis, it's outside the motion. There is no debate.

We are moving on, members.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Members are allowed to move subamendments, and it's not in there. Are you—?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Genuis, it's out of order.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I'm going to challenge you on this, then, because it's a separate amendment. I think I should be able to move my subamendment. It's crazy that you're prohibiting the use of subamendments. It's unprecedented.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

There was a ruling. It was sustained. We are moving forward.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Chair, it's a new section. I challenge the Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Shall Bloc-2 carry?

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I challenge the ruling you just made.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

The ruling has been sustained. You cannot do that, MP Genuis.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

It's a separate amendment, and I'm challenging the Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Genius—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

You can't decide as the chair that it can't be challenged.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Genuis, there has been a ruling.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Yes, and I challenge the ruling.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It's been sustained.

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I've challenged the ruling. I would like to be able move it on this clause.

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Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

To be clear here, on a point of order.... I guess it's a point of clarification—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It is outside the motion.

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Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

I understand that. I just want to understand what you were saying.

Are you saying that you just ruled on this point of order that Mr. Genuis has come up with and talked about, or are you saying there's a precedent set and that now no more challenges to the Chair will be permitted?