Evidence of meeting #27 for Finance in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clauses.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Gourevitch  Director, Postal Affairs, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

While the purpose of the clause was to encourage innovation, the government has heard the opposition's concerns regarding clause 208 as it is currently drafted, and we are willing to support the guardrails suggested by these CPC amendments.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Are there any further comments?

Seeing none, shall CPC-1 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next is CPC-2. We have to introduce it. Is someone going to introduce CPC-2?

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

CPC-2 amends clause 208 to add proposed section 12.1 to the Red Tape Reduction Act.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Shall CPC-2 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next is CPC-3. You have to introduce it.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

CPC-3 amends clause 208 to amend proposed paragraph 12(3)(b) of the Red Tape Reduction Act.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Shall CPC-3 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next is CPC-4.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

CPC-4 is an amendment to clause 208 to amend proposed subsection 14(1) of the Red Tape Reduction Act.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Shall CPC-4 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll move on to CPC-5.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

It amends clause 208 and would add sections 14.1 and 14.2 to the Red Tape Reduction Act.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Shall CPC-5 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 208 as amended agreed to on division)

(Clause 209 agreed to on division)

We are now moving on to division 6, “Public Service Superannuation Act (Operational Service)”.

There have been no amendments submitted for clauses 210 to 216. Do we have UC to group those clauses?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Shall clauses 210 to 216 carry?

(Clauses 210 to 216 agreed to on division)

(On clause 217)

We are moving on to division 7, “Public Service Superannuation Act (Workforce Reduction)”, and clause 217.

Mr. Davies, are you introducing the amendment?

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Madam Chair, I will withdraw that amendment.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

It's deemed moved.

Do we have UC for the NDP to withdraw this amendment?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

(Amendment withdrawn)

Shall clause 217 carry?

(Clause 217 agreed to on division)

(On clause 218)

Mr. Davies, are you introducing the amendment?

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I will seek UC to withdraw that amendment as well.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Do we have UC?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

(Amendment withdrawn)

Great.

Shall clause 218 carry?

(Clause 218 agreed to on division)

(On clause 219)

Mr. Davies.

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I seek UC to withdraw that amendment as well.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

Do we have unanimous consent to withdraw NDP-5?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Karina Gould

(Amendment withdrawn)

Shall clause 219 carry?

(Clauses 219 to 222 agreed to on division)

We are moving on to division 8, “Farm Credit Canada Act”.

Shall clause 223 carry?

(Clause 223 agreed to on division)

(On clause 224)

We're now on division 9, “Consumer-Driven Banking”. It's clause 224.

Mr. Garon, do you have an amendment to propose?

Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC

Yes, Madam Chair.

The purpose of amendment BQ‑9 is simply to add a paragraph to the proposed provisions on banking services in clause 224 of the bill. This paragraph clarifies that these provisions don't render ineffective provincial legislation requiring an entity that provides data to obtain a consumer's consent.

You must understand that the Quebec National Assembly has updated all its privacy legislation. I'm talking here about law 25. This law applies in particular to provincial financial institutions and to intermediaries. As you know, in the financial technology field, we no longer always do business with a bank. We can do business with an online intermediary.

The purpose of the amendment is simply to ensure respect for Quebec's jurisdictions and consistency with law 25. Incidentally, law 25 is a model to emulate. In the last Parliament, in the Standing Committee on Industry and Technology, we began working on Bill C‑27. The bill included an artificial intelligence component. However, the part of the bill concerning privacy and data met with a fairly broad consensus. We wanted to consistently and repeatedly make sure that the bill aligned with Quebec's law 25, to avoid any interpretation issues.

With this in mind, I gather that the Quebec government also feels strongly about this amendment. It's simply a matter of respecting jurisdictions.