Okay, so what we in fact had here was not just an ask for over $7 million, but also some matching money through the organization itself. I think that's important, Chair, because what we're talking about here is leverage, and we often talk about capacity in particular.
But, Minister, I want to ask you about something, because there is a lot of confusion here and I just want to be able to understand this. From what you and Ms. Biggs have stated today, we understand that this went through the department and that there was an approval by departmental officials, who signed off on it for you to approve. Then someone wrote the word “not” on it. We'll leave that aside for a second. As you said, it's apparently not important, but we'll put that aside. Then you decided not to approve the application.
The problem I'm having here, Minister, is that during this time that you had officials approve this, it looks like it was a very good proposal. It would help over 5 million people--and 2.5 million women and girls and 2.9 million men and boys were expecting to benefit from it. All of this was fitting in with the range and ambit of what departmental officials seemed to think was important.
The problem, Minister, is why did you then tell the House that officials told you not to fund KAIROS? I ask you because that's not what I'm hearing and that's not what I'm seeing.