Evidence of meeting #63 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was icc.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Karim Khan  Prosecutor, International Criminal Court, As an Individual
Irwin Cotler  Founder and International Chair, Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights, As an Individual

Noon

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Has our position changed, Minister?

Noon

Liberal

Mélanie Joly Liberal Ahuntsic-Cartierville, QC

Our position has not changed.

Noon

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Thank you.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Thank you very much.

That concludes the questions.

May 4th, 2023 / noon

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

I understand the minister is available for a full hour. We would like to use the last seven minutes. This is the first time we've had the minister in almost a year, and we only have her for an hour.

I suggest a lightning round with the remaining seven minutes she has available.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

As you know, Mr. Genuis, we have to take a few votes on the main estimates, so that will take up some time. We also have another witness scheduled for 12 o'clock.

Noon

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Is it the will of the rest of the committee to hear from the minister for the remaining time?

I see the government members nodding.

Noon

Liberal

Rob Oliphant Liberal Don Valley West, ON

There are five or six minutes.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Each party will be provided with an extra minute.

Do you have a proposal as to who will go first?

Noon

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I have a point of order.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Yes.

Noon

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

How is it that a member can just [Inaudible—Editor] the will of the committee?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Well, Mr. Oliphant agrees with him.

Noon

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

You are the chair. You direct the questions.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I am the chair, but Mr. Oliphant seemed to agree with it.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

The question should come through you instead of being lobbed onto the floor.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

I agree.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I didn't hear you ask us whether we want to have this extended. I don't mind at all, but I think, for the—

12:05 p.m.

An hon. member

The committee—

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I'm sorry. I have the floor and you don't. When the chair recognizes you, then you'll have the floor.

Mr. Chair, I think you should ask us a question and we can choose whether we want to extend. I don't have any issue whatsoever doing so, but that's for you to do and not for a random member of the committee—even, with all due respect, the vice-chair—to lob onto the floor.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

Thank you.

It's now five minutes after, and given the fact that we have the prosecutor for the ICC waiting and that we have a few votes—which will take a few minutes—we will conclude this meeting.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I have a point of order, Chair.

Can you consult the committee? You're supposed to take direction. The majority of the committee clearly wants this, so—

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

No, that was not the indication. There was no vote or anything of the sort.

Thank you very much, Minister.

Allow me to also thank the officials.

12:05 p.m.

Bloc

Stéphane Bergeron Bloc Montarville, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

You asked for unanimous consent and you got it.

I believe there was a point of order.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ali Ehsassi

He asked for unanimous consent, Mr. Bergeron, and there wasn't unanimous consent.