Evidence of meeting #9 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was help.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

MacLennan  Deputy Minister of International Development, Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development
Anthony Dessources  Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Colleagues, I call this meeting to order.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on September 23, the committee resumes its study of the situation in Haiti and Canada’s response.

I would now like to welcome the witness who will be with us for the second hour of the meeting. His Excellency Anthony Dessources is the ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada.

Mr. Dessources, welcome.

You have five minutes for your opening remarks. We will then move on to questions from committee members.

H.E. Anthony Dessources Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

Good morning, everyone, dear members of the committee.

Thank you very much for welcoming me to this great assembly and for inviting me to testify before this committee as part of the study on the situation in Haiti and Canada's response.

My name is Anthony Dessources, the new ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada. I presented my credentials to the Governor General, Her Excellency the Right Honourable Mary Simon, on September 24.

After consulting with the authorities in my country, I am able to respond to the invitation you extended last week, on Tuesday, October 21, 2025, which we had to postpone until today. I also feel it is important to express, on behalf of the Haitian government, my gratitude for your country's unwavering support for Haiti in various areas of co-operation and for the warm hospitality shown to the Haitian community in Canada.

I would particularly like to highlight Canada's involvement in recent years in Haiti's recurring socio-political crisis, with a view to finding a democratic and lasting solution. At the same time, I must take this opportunity to acknowledge the efforts of the international community to come to Haiti's aid.

Haiti, once known as the pearl of the Caribbean, is currently in an untenable situation that makes life extremely difficult for the majority of Haitians. It is a multidimensional crisis that remains quite challenging for the Haitian authorities to manage.

Firstly, the security situation remains quite difficult to resolve. Indeed, despite the Haitian government's efforts with the presence of the Multinational Security Support Mission, or MSSM, led by Kenya, bandits and criminal gangs have continued to expand their presence in the Haitian capital and even in other parts of the country, such as the Artibonite department, as well as the city of Mirebalais and the commune of Lascahobas—both located in the Central Plateau department—which are important areas for the survival of a large proportion of the population.

Naturally, this situation has caused catastrophic humanitarian consequences that the Haitian government has struggled to manage so far. These include the mass displacement of a large part of the population. Indeed, 1.4 million internally displaced persons have been forced to abandon their homes and settle in temporary shelters that do not have enough space to accommodate them.

That said, the most grievous aspect of this untenable situation is the suffering inflicted on young girls as a result of sexual violence perpetrated by gang members.

It should be noted, however, that this situation is not new and has been escalating since 2021, following the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse. That event is largely responsible for the violence that prevails in several areas of the country.

Ladies and gentlemen, try to imagine for a moment a Canada without a governor general, prime minister, or members of Parliament for five years. The country would then have to try to function with a provisional government without the appointment of these individuals, whom only the people have the power to choose and elect. Then you will better understand the situation in Haiti, despite the efforts of the presidential transition council, or PTC, to get Haiti back on track.

We also believe that, in addition to the assistance that our compatriots here are providing to their brothers and sisters in Haiti, it is undeniable that without the support of certain friendly countries, Canada in particular, the current situation would only worsen.

As the new ambassador, I would like to take this opportunity to make a solemn appeal to the Canadian government and non-governmental organizations to increase their assistance to the people of Haiti, whose ancestors were the saviours of certain nations throughout the 19th century. Such assistance should focus on security, namely strengthening the national police force, humanitarian aid, of course, economic development and support for the transitional government.

It should also be noted that the United Nations has decided to approve the creation of a new security force to assist the national police in combatting gangs, namely the Gang Suppression Force, or GSF, which has just officially replaced the MSSM in Haiti for a period of 12 months. Furthermore, all former members of the MSSM have been hired by the GSF. It is also within the framework of this reorganization that the United Nations has created the United Nations Support Office in Haiti, or UNSOH, to support the transition, which will only be operational in six months.

For its part, the presidential transition council has entered into talks with various political stakeholders and other entities in order to find the right formula for dealing with the February 7 deadline in the event that there are no elections. The choices are as follows: first, to keep the PTC in place; second, maintain the PTC with four members; third, cancel the PTC; fourth, choose a well-known Haitian citizen who is loved by the population.

Ultimately, it would be a real shame if the current political leadership failed to deliver on its major commitments. In all honesty, it would be regrettable if this transitional political opportunity did not lead to the return to constitutional order that is so desired and vital for Haiti's political stability and future. If, in the coming weeks, the credibility of the elections proves untenable, a credible democratic solution will have to be found as soon as possible by the members of the PTC, national stakeholders, and Haiti's partners. Every effort must be made to prevent the country from sinking into a deeper socio-political crisis. Haitian stakeholders must set aside their ideological differences and personal interests to prioritize the lasting stability and prosperity of our beloved homeland, Haiti.

Thank you for your attention. I apologize if I have taken up too much of your time.

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Thank you for your presentation.

We will now begin the question and answer portion of the meeting.

We're going to begin with MP Ziad Aboultaif for six minutes.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Welcome to the committee, Your Excellency.

I am sorry for the devastation caused by hurricane Melissa in your country.

Speaking of which, Canada has committed to help assist. What other countries have stepped up to the plate to support Haiti for the hurricane situation?

12:15 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

Sorry, but I didn't quite hear your question, because I took out my earpiece.

Would you mind repeating your question, please?

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Yes.

Canada is ready to help during the hurricane situation that appeared today. Can you tell us, what other international commitment is Haiti getting in addition to Canada?

12:15 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

Again, forgive me, but I didn't hear the question clearly. I may not have had the volume up high enough.

I am interested in your question, so please repeat it once more.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Initially, I had a better set of questions for you, so I'm going to move, with your permission, to other questions.

You've been ambassador for 20 years—

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

There was an issue with the interpretation, so I think Mr. Aboultaif should get his time back to ask his question again, since Mr. Dessources wanted to answer it.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Thank you kindly, my friend.

You've been an ambassador to Canada for almost 20 years and during changes of government. How have you seen the relationship between Canada and Haiti change during those 20 years?

12:20 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

Thank you for your question, which I welcome.

Your fellow members may not know that I've been to Canada as an ambassador before. It was in 2003, but I wasn't here long, because things weren't good in Haiti. President Aristide had been overthrown, and I was called back, so I had to return to Haiti. I am very happy to be here representing Haiti, but to be honest with you, I feel best when I am in Haiti.

I have spent 20 years serving my country. I kept working, even when I didn't have key responsibilities like I did when I was the Minister of Planning and External Co-operation, for instance. I've done a lot more work in the rural sector, given my background as an agronomist. I continued to meet with people who wanted to see Haiti emerge from this impasse, the situation it's in. I've also done a bit of teaching, showing young Haitians all that needs doing to help the country come out the other side. That pretty well sums up what I've been doing for those 20 years in Haiti, before I was once again appointed as Haiti's ambassador to Canada.

I hope to stay longer this time, not for myself, but for Haiti and my fellow Haitians. I want to make the most of my time, so I can help them overcome this impasse.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Thank you.

We know that the situation in Haiti has been very painful, not just for your people but also for all of us as we watch from afar. The big question will always be whether there is a path or a way forward for Haiti to basically restore and rebuild the country.

12:20 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

That's really the big question, isn't it?

I think so. I think we can get there, but the authorities in Haiti, the ones holding the power, need to be able to take the steps that can lead us out of the situation we are in. To be honest with you, though, I don't think we can get there on our own. Haiti needs help from its international friends.

I don't want to put my foot in my mouth, but I consider Canada to be a friend of Haiti's. The way you approach your dealings with us is very different from how another of Haiti's friends, the United States, interacts with us. It's very different, and I can assure you that, if the United States took the same approach as Canada and France, we would have made progress and solved some of our problems; we could have the workings of a normal state. We love our land, we love our country, but we aren't able to get everything we need to function normally. That's a fact.

What I can say, and this has been increasingly shown…. It is true that the Americans send us money here and there, but it's not the same as what Canada does. Canada's ambassador to the UN, Bob Rae, just went to Haiti, on October 21, I believe. I followed his visit, and I can tell you it was completely different from how the Americans do it. While they may be able to provide a lot more financial support, the experience is totally different.

We will definitely benefit from the additional support Mr. Rae announced, even though it's not a huge amount. It's a $60‑million contribution, on top of what had already been provided. I can assure you that the money will help us do good things.

We would like to see our international friends, the United States, France and Canada, working together. I'm not trying to flatter Canada, but the situation with Canada is a bit different. If those in charge of leading Haiti follow the rules and laws they should, I have no doubt that we can return to our former glory as the jewel of the West Indies. I am confident of that.

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

I have all of 30 seconds left. I just have a quick question that's on my mind.

Do you see any role for the church in helping to solve the issue in Haiti?

12:25 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

You mentioned the church. Could you please repeat the question?

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ziad Aboultaif Conservative Edmonton Manning, AB

Is there a role for the church in helping to solve the issue or the situation in Haiti?

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Give a very brief response, please.

12:25 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

Sorry, that made me smile. The reason for my reaction is that I don't know how the other members of the committee will take my remarks.

I'm a practising Catholic. I believe in God. I don't say that because I'm Catholic. Protestants believe in God too, of course. I think the church can help us, but it can't be simply to give…. It would have to be people who take into account the situation of all Haitians in the country.

October 28th, 2025 / 12:25 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

There are good Catholics and bad Catholics. There are good Protestants and bad—

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

I'm sorry to interrupt you, Your Excellency, but the member's time is up.

12:25 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

Too bad; it was an interesting question.

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

We'll have to come back to that off-line. Thank you so much.

Next is MP Mona Fortier. You have six minutes.

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier—Gloucester, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ambassador, for being here. I'm delighted to meet you and participate in this discussion with you today.

We are well aware that much needs to be done in Haiti. This discussion will help us focus on the study we are doing right now.

We talked about the new security force. Minister Anand was very clear on that front during her address at the UN, in New York. As you mentioned earlier, Canada is going to continue its commitment.

What do you think of Canada's leadership role and its support for the multinational security support mission in Haiti? You shared a few thoughts, but is there anything you'd like to add regarding the new mission, which Canada will play a tangible role in?

12:25 p.m.

Ambassador of the Republic of Haiti to Canada, Embassy of the Republic of Haiti

H.E. Anthony Dessources

This may be my own impression, but given all the support Canada provides to Haiti, I think it should take a more practical form. Money is great, but it's important to see how the money is being spent on the ground. I am not suggesting that the money is being misused or underused most of the time, but if those providing the money also took the time to look at how it was being used or participated in the construction effort their money was funding, I think it would be much more—

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier—Gloucester, ON

What exactly do you mean by “participated in the construction effort”?

In concrete terms, what should Canada be doing, in your view?

How can we encourage other countries to participate in this very necessary process?

Can you tell us what your vision is?