Evidence of meeting #79 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was wrongdoing.
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As an Individual
It was part of a solution, but it was not really a solution because the reprisals continued and were even worse.
Conservative
Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB
Was that brokered with the help of your union? Or was this offered to you just when you started going up the levels?
Conservative
Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB
It was just part of the process.
When you came on board at any point in your career, did anyone ever inform you of any of your rights under the whistle-blower act? Did it ever get mentioned? I know that no one is going to mention the exact name of the act, but did it ever get mentioned anywhere along the line by any of the bosses or any of the people you spoke to as you went up the levels, or by anyone in HR?
Conservative
Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB
Was there anyone else involved? You mentioned a few people elsewhere noticing that what they were doing was wrong. Did anyone else stick their neck out or speak out about it? Had you heard through the grapevine of anyone else who went through experiences similar to those you had?
As an Individual
It was not talked about openly, because of course they didn't want to be put through the same grinder that I was in. As I said, it was mentioned by that guy and another person as well. They—
Conservative
Conservative
Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB
You're not aware of anyone else mentioning it to the supervisors.
Liberal
Ramez Ayoub Liberal Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Ms. Therrien, how long had you been in that position when you blew the whistle?
As an Individual
It was a new job. I started working there in October, and I made the disclosure in January.
Liberal
Ramez Ayoub Liberal Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
Had anyone else in your organization made such disclosures?
As an Individual
No, but I remember meeting people at Service Canada during a fundraising activity for me in Quebec. For a few minutes, we were in the Service Canada offices in the Lower St. Lawrence and....
Liberal
Ramez Ayoub Liberal Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
I would like to move quickly, as we have only five minutes.
So no one else had....
As an Individual
Yes, a person who worked at Service Canada in the Lower St. Lawrence told me that it was true and that I did well to disclose what was happening.
Liberal
Liberal
Ramez Ayoub Liberal Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
No one heard about it. There were no other consequences.
Liberal
Ramez Ayoub Liberal Thérèse-De Blainville, QC
Were you told that this had to do with internal management, with the administration, and that it was not a wrongdoing? Were you told that it really had to do with the administration, that the department was managed in that way and that no wrongdoing was being committed?
