Evidence of meeting #40 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ullyatt.
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
You said your legislative assistant informed you, warned you, or announced to you that Mr. Ullyatt had forwarded these confidential reports. How did your legislative assistant learn of this? How did he or she know about this?
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
As I mentioned in my opening statement, my legislative assistant, Emrys Graefe, informed me of the breach. Mr. Ullyatt had--
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Liberal
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
How did he learn that Mr. Ullyatt had given these reports to lobbyists?
You don't need to look at your notes. You should know the answer.
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
I prepared these notes to come to this meeting.
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Fine. Then you know what's in the notes.
How did the employee find out that the other--
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
He received the e-mail, and as he scrolled down through the e-mail and followed the string of messages, at the bottom of the e-mail was one that had been sent to Lynne Hamilton.
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
He received an e-mail that had numerous strings of messages--
11:15 a.m.
Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
I see. So Mr. Ullyatt sent your legislative assistant an e-mail, and at the bottom of that e-mail was a string of other e-mails--
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Liberal
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
Including the one that he had sent to Ms. Hamilton.
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Are you aware of Mr. Ullyatt giving committee reports and/or information to lobbyists in the past?
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Ullyatt did not give reports to lobbyists.
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Thank you.
Why did you limit the timeframe during which the House IT services examined this to just these two days and only to e-mails containing the exact subject line? You know and we know that if he changed the subject line by even one character, it would not have shown up. Why did you limit it to just these two days and that particular subject line?
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Conservative
Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK
Mr. Chair, I knew what I needed to do when I needed to do it, and at the time that we were looking for any e-mails that might have been sent, that was the subject line we were looking for. We knew when the report had arrived, so we included a 24-hour period.
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Will you ask the House IT services to go back and look at all correspondence between Mr. Ullyatt and lobbyists since his employment in your office and have them provide that to the committee? Will you do that?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Joe Preston
Mr. Proulx, I think you're going a little further than this breach of privilege that we're here to study today.
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Conservative
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Liberal
Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
No, that's fine. You're blocking my question. That's okay.
Mrs. Block, were you aware that Mr. Ullyatt had been applying for work with lobbyists while working for you?