Again, it's much more complex than the device and the features of the device. It's the complete environment. Madam O'Brien explained at the beginning that we have an environment to conduct the usual day-to-day business of members of Parliament.
If you were in a place like DND, as an example of those places where you want to be purely secure and confidential and you want to control everything, they have a separate environment. They don't use the network. They don't use the mail. They don't use a lot of these things, and you can go so far...it's not just one layer. You have to look at security like peeling an onion. There are many, many layers and securing the device is not helping me if I don't secure the rest of the infrastructure, if I don't secure the wireless network. For PIN to PIN, it's like putting a lot of money in something that is not secure as a technology. CSIS, DND, and the world will tell you that you don't do that. You don't do business on cellulars if it's that confidential. That's why you need to assess the risks and the investment and also manage your environment.
My objective for many, many years has been to try to give the members as much flexibility as possible and not to put on too many constraints. I think every member is unique. You are competitive among one another and therefore I need to give you that flexibility to be who you are and to serve your constituents. Therefore, when you work in Ottawa with the institution, we already have a lot of restrictions. It is a balancing act.