Evidence of meeting #40 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was registry.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Boegman  Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Chris Bittle

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 40 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3), the committee is meeting for an update on the implementation of the foreign influence transparency registry.

Today's meeting is taking place in public in a hybrid format pursuant to the Standing Orders. Members are attending in person in the room and remotely on the Zoom application.

I would ask all in-person participants to consult the guidelines on the cards on the table. These measures are in place to help prevent audio feedback incidents and to protect the health and safety of all participants, especially our interpreters.

As per normal, if you want to speak, please raise your hand. The clerk and I will do our best to manage the speaking list.

All comments should be addressed through the chair.

I would now like to welcome our witness for today's meeting. From the Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada, we have Anton Boegman, the foreign influence transparency commissioner. Mr. Boegman will have five minutes to deliver opening remarks, and then we'll proceed with rounds of questions with members.

Mr. Boegman, you have five minutes.

Anton Boegman Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Good morning, and thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today.

It is my pleasure to appear before this committee to speak about the implementation of the registry of foreign influence activities. On August 4, 2026, I was formally appointed as Canada's first foreign influence transparency commissioner.

In this role, I am responsible for overseeing the administration of the transparency model established under the Foreign Influence Transparency and Accountability Act. I maintain a public registry and provide guidance to people and organizations whose activities may fall within the scope of the act. I promote public awareness and understanding of the new framework and its requirements, and I engage constructively with stakeholders, including communities, civil society and all levels of government, to better understand the issues. When necessary, I will carry out investigations and enforce compliance with the act, which should also act to deter non-compliant actors, and I will report publicly on the activities of the office on compliance and on emerging issues.

The registry provides Canadians with a clear and accessible tool to see who is acting with a foreign principal to influence political or governmental processes in Canada, as well as the details of their activities. The arrangements on the registry are transparent and comply with the act.

The registry makes this information available so that Canadians can better understand who is seeking to influence Canada's civic and democratic institutions and processes and how it is being done.

The act requires individuals or organizations to provide information to my office when they enter into an arrangement with a foreign principal that involves activities intended to influence a Canadian political or governmental process. They must register with us within 14 days of entering into an arrangement. If the arrangement existed before August 4, 2026, and continued after, they had until October 3 to submit their registration. Submissions are published in the registry after they've been reviewed and validated.

During the first two months, my office has focused on establishing effective processes in supporting stakeholder understanding of the act and in promoting compliance through outreach and guidance. I conducted several interviews with national media and have been implementing an engagement strategy that includes broad outreach to stakeholders through targeted email campaigns and public webinars. As an example, I delivered a focused engagement session for the academic sector with over 300 attendees.

We met with universities, government relations firms, international consular groups, industry associations and diaspora organizations. We've also worked with provincial and territorial governments as well as election agencies.

My office will continue to meet with stakeholders, promote awareness of the act and support understanding and compliance throughout the implementation process.

We continue to receive submissions as individuals and organizations assess their obligations under the act and determine whether registration requirements apply to their activities.

The registry is central to the administration of the act, and the development of a more robust registry that can better meet long-term business requirements continues to advance. This long-term solution remains a key organizational priority and will be critical to supporting the office's future operational requirements.

By registering their arrangements, individuals and organizations demonstrate their commitment to operating openly and transparently. The registry, the transparency requirements and public reporting on compliance and enforcement will also serve to deter those who may want to undertake influence activities in a covert fashion. Transparency in foreign influence activities supports legitimate advocacy, public debate and international co-operation. Providing Canadians with accessible information about certain foreign influence activities promotes openness and helps strengthen confidence in Canada's democratic institutions and processes.

I believe my office has made a positive start in implementing the mandate and is currently planning and preparing for the extensive work still to come.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Chris Bittle

Thank you very much.

We'll now go to questions. We'll turn to Mr. Cooper of the Conservatives for six minutes, please.

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Boegman.

The registration deadline for individuals and entities with pre-existing arrangements with a foreign principal was October 3. Is that correct?

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

That is correct, yes.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Okay, so it's October 6. The deadline has passed. When I pulled up the public registry online, there are two filings listed: one of an individual who did work for the U.S. state department, whose work has now concluded, and only one filing involving an active individual, namely an honorary consul for the Republic of Korea.

It's pretty obvious, isn't it, Mr. Boegman, that that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of persons and entities who are acting on behalf of a foreign principal for political or governmental processes? Is that fair?

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

Yes. I would like to explain that the registration deadline was on the third. Like many registration deadlines, people leave it to the last minute. Over the weekend, we received over 30 submissions to the registry. Prior to those being published, we, of course, must validate and confirm the information on them, to make sure the registration meets the requirements of the act and to make sure the information is accurate. Upon completion of that, it will be published.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Do you have any idea of how many persons or entities should be registering?

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

At this time, I don't have an idea of the different persons or entities across Canada who should be registering. The act is very specific in terms of.... While the breadth is there, and it applies to—

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

With the greatest respect, how is it possible that you don't have the faintest idea of the number of persons and entities who should be registered? I didn't ask for a specific number. I asked for a ballpark number. How do you not know that?

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

I have an idea of who the participants in the debates that are covered by the legislation are. We have an understanding of activities that are happening in different sectors. There is certainly not a measure across Canada of the exact number, but we do have an understanding of the numbers that are there, and we have an understanding, based on assessments that have been done, prior to the registry going live—

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

What would that number be?

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

The expectation is that the number of registrants could exceed 1,000 registrants.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

You're at 30 right now, who have applied to register.

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

After two months, yes, we're at 30.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

We're actually two years into this, and there are only 30, out of a potential 1,000.

You were appointed on August 4. In an interview in August, you indicated that you had not yet been briefed by CSIS. Have you since been briefed by CSIS?

11:05 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

I have, yes.

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Okay.

On the registry's website, the registry provides Canadians with a clear and accessible tool to see who is engaging in foreign influence and the nature of their activities. A foreign influence transparency registry means sunlight, transparency. Do you not see it as a problem when only 30 submissions have been made out of a potential list of 1,000 people who are engaging with political actors and public office holders on behalf of foreign governments, and they're not listed?

11:10 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

This is a brand new registry. The requirements are brand new. Our focus has been on reaching out and communicating with industries, with sectors and with individuals and organizations who may have a registration requirement. That's certainly what the focus is right now. As the information becomes better known, as individuals understand more about the registry, I expect that the number of registrants will increase.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

Okay.

Your office receives potentially sensitive information from persons who are the subject of surveillance by hostile foreign states, including the P.R.C. Why does your office not have an encrypted channel set up for persons who may be the target of hostile foreign states to be able to securely communicate with your office and register?

11:10 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

We're currently working on having an encrypted channel set up.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

I spoke with Dr. Charles Burton, a China expert and retired former diplomat. He met with you. He met with your deputy, Mélanie Théberge. He indicated that in that meeting, Madame Théberge said that the matter had been considered and a decision had initially been made not to go ahead with setting up an encrypted channel. Why was that decision initially made?

11:10 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

I believe that decision was initially made because there are other encrypted channels available for people to use to report information to the government, whether that be through CSIS or through the RCMP. However, since being appointed commissioner, I have made it a priority of our office to set up an encrypted channel dedicated to the Office of the Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Sturgeon River, AB

When is that channel going to be up and running?

11:10 a.m.

Foreign Influence Transparency Commissioner, Office of the Foreign Influence Commissioner of Canada

Anton Boegman

I don't have a firm estimate yet on that date, but it is something that I am interested in getting in place as soon as possible.