Evidence of meeting #6 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was economy.
Conservative
Lynne Yelich Conservative Blackstrap, SK
I'm sorry; I want a clarification of what the Bloc.... I'm sorry; it's always a vote for the amendment or the—
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
This is a vote on the amendment to the motion.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB
Mr. Chairman, I would like to raise another point in the proposal, which is the third point. This point proposes that the committee should study the report "Child Care in Canada", published by Statistics Canada in April 2006. I do not see the need for studying an issue that has already been studied. This is a report, which means that someone studied the file, and then drew some conclusions.
We can certainly find a fair balance. For example, this document could, in some way or other, be brought to bear on our discussions. Nonetheless, with regard to this subject that has already been studied, I can hardly see how we could get any better results. Basically, we could all read and understand this report. We could refer to it in the course of our debate.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
I would ask what your recommendation is in terms of the amendment to that.
I understand what you're saying in terms of studying the study, but do you have a recommendation as far as an amendment to that is concerned?
Liberal
Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB
We could amalgamate this point with the others, so that we only have two. The report would be included in our debates. I do not know what the other committee members think of this.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
The clerk has made a suggestion that the committee integrates the April 2006 Statistics Canada report entitled Child Care in Canada. How does that work with everybody?
The report would be part of the discussion. Obviously this report has been done, so you're saying we don't need to study this again, but we'd like to make sure it's integrated as part of the study.
That's an amendment.
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Bloc
Yves Lessard Bloc Chambly—Borduas, QC
Mr. Chairman, in the future it might be good for us to proceed by recorded division. Earlier, when we voted, this was not clear.
In these conditions, we cannot tell whether our colleagues opposite are waving at us or raising their hands to vote.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
I've just been informed by the clerk that it's the responsibility of the members to request a recorded vote, if that's something they'd like. Okay?
We're going to go back to Mr. Martin now. You had some other....
NDP
Tony Martin NDP Sault Ste. Marie, ON
Yes, I perhaps would suggest that we add a fourth bullet or a fourth part, since we've agreed on the integration of the third.
The third part would read:
There has been much talk of the principles embedded in successful models. These principles, such as respecting community needs, the integration of services, (such as the First Duty model in Toronto), affordability, parental involvement, licensing, and a measurement to determine quality, should be examined
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Okay, the proposal that we have is back in the original motion from Mr. Martin. He wants to integrate this back into the motion. It's on page 2 of the motions, at the top right-hand corner, the third paragraph down:
That the principles embedded in the successful models, such as respecting community needs, the integration of services (such as the First Duty model in Toronto), affordability, parental involvement, licensing, and a measurement to determine quality be examined.
This is the proposal. Do I have any more discussion on this proposed amendment?
Then what I will do is call the vote on Mr. Martin's amendment, that we add this text to the existing motion.
There's a request for a recorded vote on this.
The vote is tied. The motion will be left as is, because my vote will be nay.
(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Dean Allison
Okay, in closing, I want to point out that we do have a lot of motions on the table here in front of the committee. What I want to propose, though, is that given that we talked originally about submitting priorities and the areas we would like to study, I would still encourage people to do that as we move forward, as opposed to trying to deal with everything through motions. I realize it's at the will of the committee, if that's what they would like to do.
We are out of time for today. We have some motions before us that we'll bring forward in the next meeting on Tuesday.
With that, I adjourn the meeting.