Human Resources Committee on Jan. 28th, 2022

[The Clerk]

The motion as amended would read “That the committee invite the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development to appear for one hour before officials, for one hour on January 31, 2022, on the subject of the processing times that exceed the goal of a 30-day service standard for responding to Canadian Employment Insurance claimants at Service Canada.”

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Thank you, Madam Clerk.

I'll ask for a recorded vote.

[Louise Chabot, Bloc, Thérèse-De Blainville, QC]

I know we're voting right now, but I had my hand up before the vote, Mr. Chair.

The amendment that was read to us does not seem to indicate that the officials will be with us during the second hour. I just want to make sure they'll be present.

[Bonita Zarrillo, NDP, Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC]

Excuse me, Madame Chabot. I'm sorry. There is no translation.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

There's no translation. We did not get that. Could you repeat that, Madame Chabot?

[Louise Chabot, Bloc, Thérèse-De Blainville, QC]

The amendment that was put forward was that the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development be present in the first hour of the January 31 meeting and that her appearance be followed by a meeting with officials in the second hour.

Given the way the amendment was read, I just want to make sure that the officials will still be here in the second hour.

I should point out that I had my hand up before the vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Madam Clerk, the motion was read twice. It was clear what we're voting on.

We'll continue with the vote, Madam Clerk.

(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

The amendment has been defeated. We will now proceed to a vote on the motion as amended.

Please go ahead with a recorded vote, Madam Clerk.

[Bonita Zarrillo, NDP, Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC]

Mr. Chair, can I please have the motion read one more time before I vote?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Madam Clerk, please read it one more time for Madam Zarrillo. I just want everybody to be clear.

[The Clerk]

It reads as follows:

That the officials appear in front of the committee for one hour on January 31, 2022, on the subject of the processing times that exceed the goal of a 30-day service standard for responding to Canadian Employment Insurance claimants at Service Canada.

[Bonita Zarrillo, NDP, Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC]

Can I get clarity on who's in the “officials” bucket?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

That is not in the motion, Madam Zarrillo. That will be determined by the committee.

[Bonita Zarrillo, NDP, Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC]

Okay.

I was following this process where we had a motion on the floor. Then we had a subamendment. Then we had a sub-subamendment. The sub-subamendment wasn't considered, but the subamendment was considered. We voted on it. Then we went back to the original motion, which we didn't vote on, but there was another subamendment that came to it. So the subamendment that I thought we voted on....

I'm just wondering where this motion came from. I'm just asking for clarity. I want to make sure I know exactly what I'm voting on.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Well, we're in the middle of a vote, Madam Zarrillo. It was read several times. It is now prudent that the committee continue and finish its vote.

[Wayne Long, Liberal, Saint John—Rothesay, NB]

Chair...? Or maybe I'm not allowed to....

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

No, committee, we're in the middle of a vote. The motion was read. It was made clear to everybody.

Madam Clerk, could you continue and finish the vote?

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

The main motion as amended has been carried.

Mr. Long, you had your hand up, and then Madame Chabot.

[Wayne Long, Liberal, Saint John—Rothesay, NB]

Thank you, Chair.

I'd like to move that the committee do now adjourn.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Committee, there has been a motion to adjourn.

Those in favour?

[Louise Chabot, Bloc, Thérèse-De Blainville, QC]

Mr. Chair, I had my hand up because I wanted to reconsider my vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Okay. Thank you....

Go ahead, Madame Chabot. Sometimes you're moving in and out of the “hands” status, and—

[Louise Chabot, Bloc, Thérèse-De Blainville, QC]

I want to vote against the motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

Madam Clerk, did we not conclude the vote?

[The Clerk]

I provided the fact that it was six yeas and the vote was concluded. I received all of the votes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bobby Morrissey]

The vote was concluded, Madame Chabot.

I'll go back to Mr. Long and then Madame Kusie.