Evidence of meeting #35 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was julian.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, I'd like to have that in writing. That's a very detailed, complex motion from Mr. Menzies.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Could we get the motion in writing? It's very clear to the chair.
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
We'll be patient, Mr. Menzies.
Please just go ahead and get that in appropriate order. We want to make sure we have it clear.
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Members of the committee, witnesses, we are going to suspend for about two minutes while the motion, which is a complex motion, is written up, so that Mr. Julian and others can have a copy of it. We'll get right back to it afterwards.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Let's reconvene the meeting.
We have a copy of the motion in English. I'll have to read it for that reason, so the interpreters can do their work. I will read the motion now that is before the committee:
That the total number of minutes of debate per amendment, per member, be limited up to a maximum of three minutes, and that three minutes per member also be allotted to the clause, amended or not.
That the committee finish clause-by-clause consideration for Bill C-24 by the end of the day on Tuesday, November 7, 2006.
That all clauses that have no proposals for amendment be voted on together in one vote at the start of the meeting on Tuesday, November 7, 2006.
That Bill C-24 be reported back to the House on Thursday, November 9, or as soon as possible.
That the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-24 be completed before considering any other committee business.
That any debate on motions related to Bill C-24 be limited to three minutes per person per motion.
Mr. Julian.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
The first clause is clearly out of order. It essentially does not allow members of this committee to provide subamendments. By tying the minutes of debate to amendment of the clause, it excludes the possibility of subamendments, which is clearly permitted in Marleau and Montpetit. It's out of order.
Conservative
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
So you're saying subamendments are not covered by this?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
I'm saying that a subamendment is an amendment and it is covered by this.
NDP
Conservative
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
It's per amendment, which excludes the possibility of subamendments.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
No. A subamendment is an amendment. It's an amendment to the amendment, and that is covered in this statement.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Are you saying that for each subamendment there would be the ability to intervene for three minutes?
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
The interpretation comes through me, Mr. Julian. We have discussed it.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I would like to move an amendment to the motion deleting the second paragraph, “That the committee finish clause-by-clause consideration for Bill C-24 by the end of the day on Tuesday, November 7”; and the second-last paragraph, “That the clause-by-clause consideration for Bill C-24 be completed before considering any other committee business.”
I'll speak to those amendments that are being offered. In terms of the committee business, this essentially--
Conservative
Conservative
Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB
If this isn't a friendly amendment to this motion, and I don't view it as such, I won't accept it.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Of course, the member can move an amendment. It's up to the committee to decide whether it's accepted or not.