Thank you very much, Chair.
I'd like to welcome Mr. Neve, our guest. This is the first time that I've had the privilege to sit with you and to hear your comments.
I was going to take my question down a certain road, but I was struck by Mr. Silva's comments. They have forced me to rethink a bit of this today, and it has to do with probably the greatest issue facing Colombia, and I would think all third world countries. My wife comes from a third world country; it wasn't always a third world country, Rhodesia or Zimbabwe, but it's become almost worse than a third world country now, I can tell you, for various reasons.
It's the issue of poverty. I want to dwell on that a little bit. I've read and you've commented, I think twice today, that Amnesty International does not take a position on trade issues relating to countries. I'm not so sure you shouldn't, quite frankly. As you've noted, we're already in trade with Colombia, so as a very quick question, I'm trying to understand how a poor Colombian is somehow disadvantaged by virtue of having a rules-based system.
I get the comments you made about human rights, and I think there are some very significant issues relating to that country, but I'm trying to get an understanding from you of how Colombians are disadvantaged by having a rules-based system in trade. How would that hurt them?