They are in custody.
Evidence of meeting #21 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was public.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #21 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was public.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Once the person is in either remand or sentence custody, we have that information.
NDP
Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS
That is only for aboriginals, not for other....
Is it possible for us to get that?
Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Yes, we can provide you with that information.
NDP
Megan Leslie NDP Halifax, NS
Justice for Children and Youth, should we amend this bill, or should we just abandon it?
Executive Director, Justice for Children and Youth
I said that I actually believe that putting the principles mandated by the Supreme Court of Canada into the legislation helps, for sure, non-lawyers. But section 3, as people have talked about, is already currently the balancing. It talks about long-term protection. It talks about educating the public about how the act is working. It is already the balancing. To include reduced moral blameworthiness is a good thing. It is a principle. It's good to know up front.
Executive Director, Justice for Children and Youth
I identified the three things the Supreme Court has ruled on. They affect more than three sections, because the presumption stuff occurs in different contexts, but that's for clarity, not for necessity. Indeed, the rest, in my view, would make things worse than they currently are, and at a great cost.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Ed Fast
Thank you.
I'm going to use my discretion and cut it off here. I know that the government typically gets a question, but we are running short of time. We want to hear from Mr. Elman and Mr. Tustin as well.
I'm going to thank the witnesses for appearing. Your evidence will form part of the considerations.
While the witnesses are moving out and we're having Monsieurs Elman and Tustin take their places, there are a couple of items of committee business that are really important.
First, we circulated the budget for this review of Bill C-4. I need approval of that.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Ed Fast
We have a motion to adopt the budget.
(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Ed Fast
The second is that we have the second report of the subcommittee, the steering committee, which is sort of stale-dated, because we've now agreed to meet in the first 15 minutes of our next meeting to deal with the issue of the number of witnesses.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Ed Fast
It is a report from the steering committee. It might be stale-dated, but we need to approve it. That's all I need.
Liberal
Conservative
Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
I have a meeting at 1 o'clock, like Mr. Dominic LeBlanc. We have a preparatory meeting for the question period. I understand that you, on the government side, don't have that.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Ed Fast
Monsieur Ménard, the notice for two and a half hours went out to you. This should come as no surprise to you.
Bloc
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Ed Fast
There is an agreement at committee that we go to two and a half hours.
Conservative
Rick Norlock Conservative Northumberland—Quinte West, ON
Mr. Chair, one minute people want longer and then when you give them longer they complain that they have to be out of here quicker.
