Evidence of meeting #31 for Justice and Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cbsa.
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
Actually, there was an increase. But it would useful to check it.
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Bloc
Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC
I would like to hand over the rest of my time to my colleague.
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Bloc
Marc Lemay Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC
Ms. Xavier, your testimony interests me a great deal and perhaps I will have the chance to come back to it in the second round.
At the moment, according to what you say, you have no way of getting access to a car that may have been stolen, correct?
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Director General, Corporate Secretariat Directorate, Canada Border Services Agency
We could get access to a vehicle if, by chance, when we are looking at an export declaration, we see that the declaration is inaccurate in some administrative way.
If the declaration says that a car is in the container and we find a car in the container with a serial number that corresponds to the number on the declaration, everything is legal.
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Bloc
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Director General, Corporate Secretariat Directorate, Canada Border Services Agency
Do you mean if we suspect theft?
If I am told that the container has oranges in it, not a car, and when I examine it, I find a car, then I am suspicious.Then I have to call the local police or the RCMP and tell them that I think I have found a stolen vehicle. At that point, I have to ask for an investigation.
That is all I can do. But the bill lets me at least consult police databases to check if the vehicle really has been stolen. At that moment, I do not have the power to do that.
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Conservative
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NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, witnesses, for being here.
Ms. McAuley, if I can, I'll start with you. In terms of these stats that you gave us today, does this include pickups and small trucks, as well as passenger automobiles?
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Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Yes, it does.
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NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
Does it include heavy equipment, construction equipment, front-end loaders and that kind of thing?
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Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
We look at land-based motor vehicle theft, which includes cars, trucks, vans, sport utility vehicles, motorcycles, buses, snowmobiles, things like that.
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NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
No front-end loaders, no forklifts, none of that kind of equipment?
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Mia Dauvergne Senior Analyst, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Yes, they are included.
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NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
They are included. Okay.
You haven't separated them out in any way?
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Director, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
We can separate them out and supply that to the committee, if you would like.
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NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
Would you do that? Heavy equipment that's used in the construction trade is what I'm looking for. In particular, what I'm looking for, Ms. McAuley, is to see.... My understanding is this is the one area where there in fact has been a substantial increase in thefts, so I would want to see this over maybe the last five years. If you could, would you just pass that on to the clerk of the committee?
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Senior Analyst, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
I'm not sure we can splice out specifically the heavy equipment, but we would be able to separate out the trucks and the cars and the smaller vehicles—
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Senior Analyst, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
Right. What we can do is give you all the categories that we're able to drill down to, but it may not specifically be heavy equipment.
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Senior Analyst, Policing Services Program, Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics, Statistics Canada
We would have a catch-all category of other types of vehicles, because it would be so small.
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NDP
