Evidence of meeting #137 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was meeting.
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NDP
Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC
I want to say to Mr. Fraser in particular that I appreciate the intervention.
The purpose of our usual rule to deal with witnesses in camera is that we don't want Canadians to see whom we've chosen—A over B. That could be embarrassing and so forth. That's the purpose, I understand, of our usual practice. There's no such purpose that's required to be met here. Here we have a situation in which Canadians had four and a half hours of testimony from someone, and we simply want her to come back. I see no impropriety in having us make a decision today in those circumstances.
I would ask that the motion be voted upon.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
Absolutely. I want to make sure there's nobody else who wants to speak.
I see a request from Ms. May.
Committee, do we agree that Ms. May may speak?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Green
Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC
Thanks for the latitude from my colleagues around the table.
If I were able to vote on this, I would ask that Jody Wilson-Raybould come back to respond to the evidence from Mr. Butts.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
Thank you very much, Ms. May.
We'll have a vote on the motion from Mr. Rankin.
(Motion negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
Colleagues, I would remind everybody that we have another meeting at two o'clock, which I'm sure many of you have to prepare for.
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Conservative
Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON
I have a point of order.
Mr. Chair, I'm just curious. Can you remind me how it is that the Clerk of the Privy Council and the deputy minister of justice are coming back to refute Jody Wilson-Raybould's testimony for a second time? Did they ask us for it? Did we vote on it? Can you remind us exactly how they ended up on the afternoon schedule as a second go-around?
It would be great context for Canadians to understand exactly why Jody Wilson-Raybould isn't allowed to come back.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
Certainly, Ms. Raitt. I would be happy to.
There was a motion at the committee that following the testimony of Jody Wilson-Raybould, the committee would meet to consider next steps. At a meeting of the committee that followed that, the committee agreed to call Mr. Wernick, Ms. Drouin and Mr. Butts to come to testify. As part of that same motion, they said that after those testimonies were over, they would meet to consider next steps. That's where we are now.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather
Thank you, Ms. Raitt.
Colleagues, I'll see you all at two o'clock.
The meeting is adjourned.